RE: Life
Botanico Gruber Gruber Chiari
Wed 10/21/2009 3:36 PM
Victor
write me to my other account, botanicogruber@hotmail as I tried to
change the password and mixed symbols in such a way that I might not be
able to get back into this account, it was hacked in the last two days.
About scabies, I do not use that term, is it known by any other term,
could you describe the ailment to me. I would have loved to bring you
down here and teach you about herbs but you stated you would continue to
use marijuana. Back there it may be in many states a misnomenor, here
its a serious offence. The legal system is terrible, you get put in
jail and your trail comes up often three yeas later and usuall guilty to
justify the time in jail, so you gave me no choice than to deny my
invitation as not to potentially cause you to spend time in jail. Write
me to my other address
From: rightprotect@hotmail.com
To: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Life
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:05:49 -0500
Franklin,
Nowhere on my site does it say or has it ever said that one has to make a donation to "get in." It's HAVETHISbook.com, after all. It's totally free.
I could care less about your imaginary money. I hate money, remember? It's not like I wish you failure, just that I am not in the least bit suprised by you failing. I am indifferent towards you. What do you expect? You started the indifference thing by opting to stay out of our lives.
I don't have a vendetta against you. Don't flatter yourself. I'm just responding appropriately. I forgave you the first time, remember? Then you went back on your word, showing your true colors.
On another note. What do you know about scabies? Do you know of a natural cure for them? I've been itching for a while. Can you give me any pointers? I did a treatment of Permethrin Cream 5% in Missoula, Montana not that long ago at the free clinic there, but I'm still itching. I should probably do another treatment of it. I researched it on the web. I much rather have scabies than Herpes(which is what I thought I had).
I did spend eleven months all around the country camping outside without a tent. But I've been doing that for almost eight years now.
We make ourselves rich by making our wants few. Being poor is one step closer to being free.
- Victor Antonio
From: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
To: rightprotect@hotmail.com
Subject: Life
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:49:56 +0000
Hi Victor, the last time I visited your web site it asked for a donation to get in. I would have no problem with that except that I do not have a credit card, so I only know what you specifically send to me so do not blame me if you do not inform me what you are going through. Your always on a negative note regarding me, seems as actually you wish failure for me. It looks as vengeance and hate is a key note motivating your life. On the other hand you expressed that I do a better job with your tiny brothers who will be hurt if I fail as you desire. Odds are that if I made 10 million dollars tomorrow your tone would change and you might be interested in a substancial donation or kindly claim what you think is due you, but you would in no way contribute even with kind words to my accomplishment of that goal, on the contrary if your messages could affect the minds of would be buyers of my formula you would do so so they would not buy. I understand the reasons for your vendatta against me, I might feel similarly but I would work for a better understanding of my old man so my own mental wounds would heal and maybe put my talent to the service of a mutal goal, making some substancial money. Money seems to be the solution to all problems in America and the World now days. Its easy to say No, thats not true, Love is more important among human beings but when money is absent families break up and kids hate their fathers. So try working with me and not against me. Maybe we can make our peace some day. Although I do not agree with your life philosophy, well, you have a right to think as you please. I am not bitter against you in any way. And, although I am not rich by any standard, my success lies in my ability to survive and prosper even in the harshest economic crises ahead. I have earned the LOVE of the mountain people of Panama and can live indefinitely among them trading medicine for food and shelter. Right now my rent is only sixty dollars a month and of that I only pay 30 as my stepson is now working and proud to pay the other half. We both pitch in for food, so although the economic situation here is not good and bound to get worse, my success is in learning how to be happily poor, in fact I sort of enjoy it as its a learning experience. On the other hand, I do have some new possessions, a new motorcycle, 150cc. An American in this area appreciated what I was doing for the humble classes of Panama and made me this donation. In turn I also donated him a substancial amount of my Jungle Oil Concentrate. I have loved Panama and the mountain way of living. My success is not measured in Money but rather in PEACE OF MIND as I have learned that it is not bad to be poor but rather it is bad not to " know" how to be poor. Yet, I know before hand, that anything I say to you here you will be snapping back with negative thoughts. And if there was some money for you, well, of course maybe your thoughts would not be so negative. What I could give you is some of the concentrate of my oil which now has testimonials in internet that it heals skin cancer frequently, for that in the states, if would retail for 100 or more dollars an ounce! With a money back guarantee if you can find a way to get it in legally. I do not want you to become my salesman, don´t misunderstand me, but if you can
exchange it for donations, it can help your economic situation. I have several Americans retired here making a little extra cash selling my oil, they all love it. In three years have sold approximately 5,000 4 ounce bottles.
Could you please paste what is in your journal and send it to me like an email and I will be glad to learn what you have been going through. These are hard times for most of humanity so I can imagine your hardships are not invented.
Possibly we could get our positive mental energies in sync and help each other in unexpected ways.
Franklin
From: rightprotect@hotmail.com
To: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Life
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:32:15 -0500
You think you deserve any more from me? Ha! You reap what you sow, you deadbeat. You've been absent from the majority of your children's life and you expect to be honored? What a joke. You deserve much worse from us.
You could read exactly what I have been doing with my life on the journal on my website(pictures and everything, updated to Sept 14, 2009, soon to be current), if you weren't so damn ignorant of it. Plus, I never let my schooling interfere with my education. School is slave-training and I'm no slave. Knowledge is free. I don't need to be fed knowledge. I can feed myself, thank you.
You're just bitter because you never have or ever will amount to anything. It must suck to be you. And I could care less about America. It's all one world and every life form on this planet is directly connected with each other. This country is stolen land to begin with. When will we ever learn??
From: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
To: rightprotect@hotmail.com
Subject: Life
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:32:40 +0000
Well, isn´t that nice of you to honor me with such polite words. Your so charming! Your letters to me are full of funny polite words...hope you also enjoy them! They will, coming from me, enhance your image, it just needs a little polishing not much. By the way, what have you been doing with your life now days besides getting stoned on pot and preaching that religion? Have you been planting or harvesting any food, working for it, or still just asking people to give it freely to you in exchange for your wisdom? There is always some sucker out there willing to give to a taker, right? I wish you would have meet Randolf, an American stranded in Panama for 20 years. He had been a taker for 30. When are you going to leave the states and see America as other nationalities are seeing you folks. Math and Science grades have been dropping there while much of the rest of the World has been exceeding. Why is America losing its great luster, too much pot, cocain, too much materialism? Do you even have an answer? Does it matter to you?
From: rightprotect@hotmail.com
To: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Life
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:42:11 -0500
Failure 10? Huh? Taking a sentence out of context? Do you mean you just now noticed I changed Bastard Franklin to Failure Franklin? I did that so long ago. I even recall apologizing for using bastard and would find something a bit more fitting. I think I did. Why should that offend you, anyway? You must think you're a winner, or something. Ha!
From: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
To: rightprotect@hotmail.com
Subject: Life
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:15:22 +0000
Hello Victor, saw your latest attack on my character, failure 10. Your taking a sentence out of context is childish, anything to hurt the old man! Don´t you have anything better to do with your life??? You know life is a boomarang, all your own thoughts, words and deeds will also come back to you. So make what comes out of you a practice of your love and forgiveness so that life and God may also have mercy on you. Wish you the best, Franklin Gruber Chiari
> From: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
> To: rightprotect@hotmail.com
> Subject: RE: Life
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:06:35 +0000
>
>
> Hi Victor! Asking for sidewalks is a lot better than robbing banks. However you might consider doing it as a JOURNALIST, you seem to have talent for that. Just for a couple of pages some news papers or magazines pay up to 25 thousand dollars. The important thing is that information be interesting and accurrate. Born writers can change the World, check out writers associations, there are a lot of rebels in there too.
>
> As for me Victor, all my victories come mixed, a few demons mix themselves in as sheep then create the impression I am the bad guy but in the end it all works out to my advantage as truth, light is greater than darkness! PS Whatever you do in life do so respecting the rights of others and all things will go well for you! Glad you are alive and kicking, take care of yourself. Will spend some time looking at your web site. Franklin
> ________________________________
> > From: rightprotect@hotmail.com
> > To: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
> > Subject: RE: Life
> > Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:23:06 -0500
> >
> >
> > Frank,
> > Sorry it took me so long to answer. I rarely check my hotmail account anymore. I have been terribly busy doing my thing. Around the beginning of the year I walked around Loop 410 here in San Antonio, twice. Bandera to Bandera. Both directions. 49 miles each time. I documented every step and took pictures too. Do you remember Loop 410? How about Loop 1604, the outer loop of town? Well, last week I walked Loop 1604 too. Bandera to Bandera again. I did it in three and a half days. 1604 is 94.4 miles long. All for world peace through marijuana. It was such a blessed walk. I'll walk it again eventually, in the other direction like I did 410. I have to stay consistent.
> > Also, before I left last February to head to the East Coast, I was sure to spraypaint a fence nearby with OLD TEZEL NEEDS A SIDEWALK. I had been planning this for years. It really does need one. They raped the woods I grew up in to build a new neighborhood on that corner. So I had beef with that hood anyway. I had absolutely no problem defacing that fence. There's TONS of sidewalk in the neighborhood.
> > I had always wanted to spraypaint the fence before I took off on one of my trips. I thought I would need a getaway car. Last February my friend agreed to drive for me, but stood me up and never answered his phone that night. Well, the next day I was determined to take off traveling. But, I still wanted to spraypaint the fence. So around noon I mustered up some balls, walked all my bags the half mile to corner I wanted to tag and around noon in broad daylight with cars everywhere I spraypainted that fence. Then I walked over to my bags and straight to the bus stop.
> > I stood there wondering what would get there first, the police or the bus. I'm sure people called the cops when they saw me spraying the fence. Lo and behold, ten minutes later I see the bus pull up. I skipped town that day. I've got current pictures of the sidewalk on my MySpace, http://www.myspace.com/victortheliberator Click on Pics.
> >
> > The fence spraying was even on the local news. Check it out: http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=6385273b-12ca-4a63-b8c7-8f6174db8c61
> >
> > I hit Houston, New Orleans, Pensacola, Panama City, Tallahassee, Lake City, Gainesville, Ocala, Tampa, St. Pete, Gulfport, Miami, Key West, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach, back to Gulfport, Mathews, VA on the Chesepeake Bay, Little Washington, VA, Morgantown, WV, Charleston, Huntington, Portsmouth, OH, Cincinnati and Celina. I documented it all. I even went to jail for three days. Read up on me if you have the time.
> > In Celina I called my mom and she told me, "Victor, are you sitting down? They're building your sidewalk." Woohoo! My name ain't Victor for nothing. I had to come home for my sidewalk. Ada volunteered me the bus fare and I caught the Greyhound home.
> > It's been great back in San Antonio. There is no place like home. I'm totally famous around here. A regular hero. I get recognized everywhere I go in town. I am still spreading my word and having great presentations with people daily. I'm giving everyone a big heaping helping of hope and it's spreading like wildfire. You can always track my progress by checking my website. It's fairly current and I just added a new section with my San Antonio Loop walks. You should check it out. Pictures and everything:
> >
> > http://www.havethisbook.com/journal/loopwalker.htm
> >
> > I'm on the right track and I have photographic evidence.
> >
> > Hope things are going productive for you too.
> >
> > Praise Love!
> >
> > - Victor Antonio
From: rightprotect@hotmail.com
To: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Life
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:05:49 -0500
Franklin,
Nowhere on my site does it say or has it ever said that one has to make a donation to "get in." It's HAVETHISbook.com, after all. It's totally free.
I could care less about your imaginary money. I hate money, remember? It's not like I wish you failure, just that I am not in the least bit suprised by you failing. I am indifferent towards you. What do you expect? You started the indifference thing by opting to stay out of our lives.
I don't have a vendetta against you. Don't flatter yourself. I'm just responding appropriately. I forgave you the first time, remember? Then you went back on your word, showing your true colors.
On another note. What do you know about scabies? Do you know of a natural cure for them? I've been itching for a while. Can you give me any pointers? I did a treatment of Permethrin Cream 5% in Missoula, Montana not that long ago at the free clinic there, but I'm still itching. I should probably do another treatment of it. I researched it on the web. I much rather have scabies than Herpes(which is what I thought I had).
I did spend eleven months all around the country camping outside without a tent. But I've been doing that for almost eight years now.
We make ourselves rich by making our wants few. Being poor is one step closer to being free.
- Victor Antonio
From: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
To: rightprotect@hotmail.com
Subject: Life
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:49:56 +0000
Hi Victor, the last time I visited your web site it asked for a donation to get in. I would have no problem with that except that I do not have a credit card, so I only know what you specifically send to me so do not blame me if you do not inform me what you are going through. Your always on a negative note regarding me, seems as actually you wish failure for me. It looks as vengeance and hate is a key note motivating your life. On the other hand you expressed that I do a better job with your tiny brothers who will be hurt if I fail as you desire. Odds are that if I made 10 million dollars tomorrow your tone would change and you might be interested in a substancial donation or kindly claim what you think is due you, but you would in no way contribute even with kind words to my accomplishment of that goal, on the contrary if your messages could affect the minds of would be buyers of my formula you would do so so they would not buy. I understand the reasons for your vendatta against me, I might feel similarly but I would work for a better understanding of my old man so my own mental wounds would heal and maybe put my talent to the service of a mutal goal, making some substancial money. Money seems to be the solution to all problems in America and the World now days. Its easy to say No, thats not true, Love is more important among human beings but when money is absent families break up and kids hate their fathers. So try working with me and not against me. Maybe we can make our peace some day. Although I do not agree with your life philosophy, well, you have a right to think as you please. I am not bitter against you in any way. And, although I am not rich by any standard, my success lies in my ability to survive and prosper even in the harshest economic crises ahead. I have earned the LOVE of the mountain people of Panama and can live indefinitely among them trading medicine for food and shelter. Right now my rent is only sixty dollars a month and of that I only pay 30 as my stepson is now working and proud to pay the other half. We both pitch in for food, so although the economic situation here is not good and bound to get worse, my success is in learning how to be happily poor, in fact I sort of enjoy it as its a learning experience. On the other hand, I do have some new possessions, a new motorcycle, 150cc. An American in this area appreciated what I was doing for the humble classes of Panama and made me this donation. In turn I also donated him a substancial amount of my Jungle Oil Concentrate. I have loved Panama and the mountain way of living. My success is not measured in Money but rather in PEACE OF MIND as I have learned that it is not bad to be poor but rather it is bad not to " know" how to be poor. Yet, I know before hand, that anything I say to you here you will be snapping back with negative thoughts. And if there was some money for you, well, of course maybe your thoughts would not be so negative. What I could give you is some of the concentrate of my oil which now has testimonials in internet that it heals skin cancer frequently, for that in the states, if would retail for 100 or more dollars an ounce! With a money back guarantee if you can find a way to get it in legally. I do not want you to become my salesman, don´t misunderstand me, but if you can
exchange it for donations, it can help your economic situation. I have several Americans retired here making a little extra cash selling my oil, they all love it. In three years have sold approximately 5,000 4 ounce bottles.
Could you please paste what is in your journal and send it to me like an email and I will be glad to learn what you have been going through. These are hard times for most of humanity so I can imagine your hardships are not invented.
Possibly we could get our positive mental energies in sync and help each other in unexpected ways.
Franklin
From: rightprotect@hotmail.com
To: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Life
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:32:15 -0500
You think you deserve any more from me? Ha! You reap what you sow, you deadbeat. You've been absent from the majority of your children's life and you expect to be honored? What a joke. You deserve much worse from us.
You could read exactly what I have been doing with my life on the journal on my website(pictures and everything, updated to Sept 14, 2009, soon to be current), if you weren't so damn ignorant of it. Plus, I never let my schooling interfere with my education. School is slave-training and I'm no slave. Knowledge is free. I don't need to be fed knowledge. I can feed myself, thank you.
You're just bitter because you never have or ever will amount to anything. It must suck to be you. And I could care less about America. It's all one world and every life form on this planet is directly connected with each other. This country is stolen land to begin with. When will we ever learn??
From: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
To: rightprotect@hotmail.com
Subject: Life
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:32:40 +0000
Well, isn´t that nice of you to honor me with such polite words. Your so charming! Your letters to me are full of funny polite words...hope you also enjoy them! They will, coming from me, enhance your image, it just needs a little polishing not much. By the way, what have you been doing with your life now days besides getting stoned on pot and preaching that religion? Have you been planting or harvesting any food, working for it, or still just asking people to give it freely to you in exchange for your wisdom? There is always some sucker out there willing to give to a taker, right? I wish you would have meet Randolf, an American stranded in Panama for 20 years. He had been a taker for 30. When are you going to leave the states and see America as other nationalities are seeing you folks. Math and Science grades have been dropping there while much of the rest of the World has been exceeding. Why is America losing its great luster, too much pot, cocain, too much materialism? Do you even have an answer? Does it matter to you?
From: rightprotect@hotmail.com
To: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Life
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:42:11 -0500
Failure 10? Huh? Taking a sentence out of context? Do you mean you just now noticed I changed Bastard Franklin to Failure Franklin? I did that so long ago. I even recall apologizing for using bastard and would find something a bit more fitting. I think I did. Why should that offend you, anyway? You must think you're a winner, or something. Ha!
From: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
To: rightprotect@hotmail.com
Subject: Life
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:15:22 +0000
Hello Victor, saw your latest attack on my character, failure 10. Your taking a sentence out of context is childish, anything to hurt the old man! Don´t you have anything better to do with your life??? You know life is a boomarang, all your own thoughts, words and deeds will also come back to you. So make what comes out of you a practice of your love and forgiveness so that life and God may also have mercy on you. Wish you the best, Franklin Gruber Chiari
> From: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
> To: rightprotect@hotmail.com
> Subject: RE: Life
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:06:35 +0000
>
>
> Hi Victor! Asking for sidewalks is a lot better than robbing banks. However you might consider doing it as a JOURNALIST, you seem to have talent for that. Just for a couple of pages some news papers or magazines pay up to 25 thousand dollars. The important thing is that information be interesting and accurrate. Born writers can change the World, check out writers associations, there are a lot of rebels in there too.
>
> As for me Victor, all my victories come mixed, a few demons mix themselves in as sheep then create the impression I am the bad guy but in the end it all works out to my advantage as truth, light is greater than darkness! PS Whatever you do in life do so respecting the rights of others and all things will go well for you! Glad you are alive and kicking, take care of yourself. Will spend some time looking at your web site. Franklin
> ________________________________
> > From: rightprotect@hotmail.com
> > To: botanicofranklingruber@hotmail.com
> > Subject: RE: Life
> > Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:23:06 -0500
> >
> >
> > Frank,
> > Sorry it took me so long to answer. I rarely check my hotmail account anymore. I have been terribly busy doing my thing. Around the beginning of the year I walked around Loop 410 here in San Antonio, twice. Bandera to Bandera. Both directions. 49 miles each time. I documented every step and took pictures too. Do you remember Loop 410? How about Loop 1604, the outer loop of town? Well, last week I walked Loop 1604 too. Bandera to Bandera again. I did it in three and a half days. 1604 is 94.4 miles long. All for world peace through marijuana. It was such a blessed walk. I'll walk it again eventually, in the other direction like I did 410. I have to stay consistent.
> > Also, before I left last February to head to the East Coast, I was sure to spraypaint a fence nearby with OLD TEZEL NEEDS A SIDEWALK. I had been planning this for years. It really does need one. They raped the woods I grew up in to build a new neighborhood on that corner. So I had beef with that hood anyway. I had absolutely no problem defacing that fence. There's TONS of sidewalk in the neighborhood.
> > I had always wanted to spraypaint the fence before I took off on one of my trips. I thought I would need a getaway car. Last February my friend agreed to drive for me, but stood me up and never answered his phone that night. Well, the next day I was determined to take off traveling. But, I still wanted to spraypaint the fence. So around noon I mustered up some balls, walked all my bags the half mile to corner I wanted to tag and around noon in broad daylight with cars everywhere I spraypainted that fence. Then I walked over to my bags and straight to the bus stop.
> > I stood there wondering what would get there first, the police or the bus. I'm sure people called the cops when they saw me spraying the fence. Lo and behold, ten minutes later I see the bus pull up. I skipped town that day. I've got current pictures of the sidewalk on my MySpace, http://www.myspace.com/victortheliberator Click on Pics.
> >
> > The fence spraying was even on the local news. Check it out: http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=6385273b-12ca-4a63-b8c7-8f6174db8c61
> >
> > I hit Houston, New Orleans, Pensacola, Panama City, Tallahassee, Lake City, Gainesville, Ocala, Tampa, St. Pete, Gulfport, Miami, Key West, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach, back to Gulfport, Mathews, VA on the Chesepeake Bay, Little Washington, VA, Morgantown, WV, Charleston, Huntington, Portsmouth, OH, Cincinnati and Celina. I documented it all. I even went to jail for three days. Read up on me if you have the time.
> > In Celina I called my mom and she told me, "Victor, are you sitting down? They're building your sidewalk." Woohoo! My name ain't Victor for nothing. I had to come home for my sidewalk. Ada volunteered me the bus fare and I caught the Greyhound home.
> > It's been great back in San Antonio. There is no place like home. I'm totally famous around here. A regular hero. I get recognized everywhere I go in town. I am still spreading my word and having great presentations with people daily. I'm giving everyone a big heaping helping of hope and it's spreading like wildfire. You can always track my progress by checking my website. It's fairly current and I just added a new section with my San Antonio Loop walks. You should check it out. Pictures and everything:
> >
> > http://www.havethisbook.com/journal/loopwalker.htm
> >
> > I'm on the right track and I have photographic evidence.
> >
> > Hope things are going productive for you too.
> >
> > Praise Love!
> >
> > - Victor Antonio
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