Session Start: Sun Aug 13 07:22:16 2023
Session Ident: #Gulag
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[07:22.16] Topic: ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekeq4szDmJo，
[07:22.16] Channel Topic Set by: OldMole on 5:17 AM 8/13/2023
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[07:22.36] <wptmj> good morning gulagers
[07:23.38] <gannon> hey people
[07:23.41] <Slayer78_> Not much happening here, seemingly
[07:23.41] <gannon> hey AAAman
[07:23.45] <Slayer78_> Hi gannon
[07:23.45] <gannon> got AAAIDS?
[07:24.00] <tzip> Pence on Meet the Press. Honestly, that guy can't answer any question put to him. It's all empty campaign idiocy.
[07:24.43] <gannon> bro seems like a true dope and psychopath
[07:24.48] <gannon> Deanr's favorite
[07:25.09] <Slayer78_> tzip: oh so he's like Robert Mueller?
[07:25.16] <IlumiNaughty> have a warm cup of ChaiGPT
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[07:26.42] <Slayer78_> Hi DS9isBest
[07:27.50] <DS9isBest> Hola
[07:29.30] <Slayer78_> Pence always seems insignificant to me, Trump just took him as VP to secure the Christian vote imo
[07:31.16] <AAAman> Who was the last siginificant VP?
[07:32.18] <gannon> Sarah Huckabee Sanders turns 41 today
[07:32.20] <gannon> lol 41??
[07:32.32] <Slayer78_> I have no issues with her
[07:32.34] <gannon> i thought she was almost 60
[07:32.58] <Slayer78_> In comparison Karine Jean Pierre and the prior one were worst
[07:33.14] <Slayer78_> Pension?!
[07:33.19] <Slayer78_> Penski?!
[07:33.28] <AAAman> For centuries Magna Carta has stood for the principle that no man is above the law, not even a king.
[07:33.38] <gannon> she's from Hope, Arkansas, birthplace of Bill Clintone
[07:33.43] <gannon> lol Rapin Bill
[07:34.12] <IlumiNaughty> monga heela
[07:34.16] <katy_fr> Not really.
[07:34.30] <Slayer78_> Ah yes... in hindsight, the MeToo thing was late
[07:34.36] <katy_fr> Magna Carta never stood for as much as it has come to stand for in mythology.
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[07:35.40] <AAAman> Raising money has also been a net positive for Trump
[07:35.45] <IlumiNaughty> we moved nn from MeToo to SheToo (guys becoming women to share in the victimhood)
[07:36.49] <AAAman> In Common Sense (January 1776) Thomas Paine reminded the American colonists that in a free republic “ the law is king
[07:37.06] <IlumiNaughty> hmm
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[07:38.08] <AAAman> remind those gathered that “the law is king”
[07:38.17] <IlumiNaughty> was that before or after they dressed up like indiands to break the law and destroy British Tea?
[07:38.46] <gannon> look how dumb AAAman is
[07:39.16] <P-1> MAGA terrorist gannon: STFU fool :)
[07:39.32] <gannon> look at sad elderly loser P-1 struggle
[07:39.36] <AAAman> Colonists argued that the Brits broke the law
[07:39.46] <IlumiNaughty> URthaDUMBoneGannon
[07:39.59] <P-1> gannon: you took me off ignore again?
[07:40.04] <AAAman> No taxation without reputation
[07:40.32] <AAAman> gannon-- rejects the Declaration of Independence
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[07:40.48] <gannon> lol wut
[07:40.49] <euphony> morning golkfses
[07:40.55] <seeker> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiCaqA0ngRc，
[07:40.56] <@Lard> [YouTube] WKUK Pledge of Allegiance | 1m 25s | The Whitest Kids U'Know | 310,948 views
[07:41.01] <seeker> hey euphony good morning :)
[07:41.10] <euphony> never saw WKUK, hear it is good tho
[07:41.13] <euphony> hi seeker
[07:41.28] <seeker> lol me neither tbh but I love their youtube clips
[07:41.31] <Slayer78_> Hi euphony
[07:41.43] <seeker> THIS IS NOT A FORM OF BRAINWASHING
[07:41.58] <IlumiNaughty> what part of ' No taxation without reputation' is it when you destroy other peoples property? Boston Tea Party
[07:42.16] <seeker> you mean representation?
[07:42.17] <euphony> I have the same relationship with Always Sunny, I have never seen it, but I can quote the Pepe Sylvia Rant and the DENNIS System lol
[07:42.49] <seeker> I'm pleased to inform you that your NWO Social Credit Score is great euphony :D
[07:43.15] <IlumiNaughty> Alway Cher
[07:43.33] <euphony> YAY :)
[07:43.39] <seeker> I've been playing the shit out of Baldur's Gate 3
[07:43.43] <ZShurp> So, as expected, Russia is forcibly interdicting naval shipping to Ukraine to search vessels and ensure that they are not carrying arms. ""After the inspection group completed its work on board, the Sukru Okan continued on its way to the port of Izmail," the defence ministry said."
[07:43.44] <seeker> it's sooo good
[07:43.49] <ZShurp> ＋https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-warship-fires-dry-cargo-ship-black-sea-defence-ministry-2023-08-13/，
[07:43.51] <@Lard> [url] Russian warship fires warning shots on cargo ship in Black Sea | Reuters | ＋www.reuters.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2y2nmxyp， )
[07:43.55] <euphony> I am still playing StarCraft 2, I am not much of a gamer
[07:43.57] <seeker> highly recommend
[07:43.58] <ZShurp> Any ships which refuse to stop will likely be sunk.
[07:44.04] <seeker> starcraft 2 is a great game
[07:44.05] <gannon> Added *!*ZShurp
[07:44.09] <seeker> I love the co-op mode
[07:44.34] <gannon> bro i just had breakfast
[07:44.42] <gannon> two cans of Chef Boyardee Spaghetti and Meatballs
[07:44.54] <IlumiNaughty> how floaty is the Moskva right now?
[07:45.12] <seeker> .ud moskva
[07:45.12] <IlumiNaughty> uggh gannon
[07:45.13] <@Lard> [urban] moskva - See also: [Paper Tiger]The flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet that was sunk on April 14, 2022 during the illegal invasion of Ukraine. Despite claims from Russia and people on the internet that the ship was "invincible", only two R-360 "Neptune" anti-ship missiles launched from Ukraine were needed to sink it. In reality, [the ship's] defensive systems were horribly […]
[07:45.29] <seeker> the wonders of ignore, IlumiNaughty :P
[07:45.30] <gannon> gourmet cuisine
[07:45.31] <IlumiNaughty> wow gannon, you have your own chef?
[07:47.45] <ZShurp> So anyway, if Russia is permitting merchant vessels to continue on to Ukraine after being searched, that's a positive sign, it suggests that Ukraine will be able to get grain to the rest of the world that needs it
[07:47.56] <euphony> music to chill and read to ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8scL5oJX6CM，
[07:47.57] <@Lard> [YouTube] Cigarettes After Sex (Full Album) - Cigarettes After Sex | 46m 42s | Cigarettes After Sex | 11,562,435 views
[07:48.18] <seeker> :O post-coital tunes!
[07:48.32] <seeker> that would be an epic album name
[07:48.38] <gannon> Added *!*webchat
[07:48.43] <gannon> worst dreck i've ever heard
[07:52.08] <@Lard> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw_tGRblTXk， - SASSY THE SASQUATCH - ALL EPS
[07:53.40] <euphony> Reading that in the 1700s British translations of Plato would simply swap "young men" for "young women". So, "I like to bang young men, in a sexual way" was retranslated as "I like to bang young women, in a sexual way". Queer erasure is often not subtle lol
[07:53.57] <Slayer78_> euphony: who the fuck cares?
[07:54.29] <+Debaser> Slayer78_: who put you in charge of what people care about
[07:54.39] <+Debaser> Hi zshurp
[07:54.40] <seeker> he did, obviously :P
[07:54.55] <gannon> remember Race Hustling #101 folks, Make Everything About Race
[07:54.59] <gannon> “This whole thing has woken up a sleeping giant,” said Faya Rose TourĂ©, a Black activist and lawyer who organized the event. Black people “are the ones who keep these White businesses open. If they don’t start supporting us, we won’t keep supporting them.” There will be more protests, she predicted.
[07:55.04] <seeker> I have no doubt that our history is far more gay than the archives admit euphony XD
[07:55.13] <gannon> This - about a dispute over a wrongfully docked boat lol
[07:55.13] <IlumiNaughty> Jeebus take the wheel
[07:55.16] <euphony> Morning Debaser :)
[07:55.22] <AAAman> ＋https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/politics/white-supremacists-anarchists-dhs-homeland-threat-assessment/index.html，
[07:55.22] <gannon> ＋https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/08/12/montgomery-brawl-alabama-history-response/，
[07:55.23] <@Lard> [url] White supremacists remain deadliest US terror threat, Homeland Security report says | CNN Politics | ＋www.cnn.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/y3d9wskv， )
[07:55.33] <@Lard> [url] Montgomery brawl response steeped with the Alabama city's long history - The Washington Post | ＋www.washingtonpost.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/27f2tlgg， )
[07:55.36] <+Debaser> Hey euphony
[07:55.45] <ZShurp> hi debaser
[07:56.04] <gannon> look how dumb AAAman is
[07:56.27] <euphony> seeker, yes. In fact the American National Archives which contain the correspondence of America's presidents, first ladies, and their families, had an official policy to hide/destroy evidence of queerness. FDR's son demanded evidence of his mother's extremely lesbian life be hidden, so the archives implemented that policy
[07:56.37] <euphony> I do not know if the policy still stands or not
[07:56.53] <wptmj> fake rebels in #rebelyell
[07:57.07] <wptmj> kicked me BECAUSE I WAS YELLING
[07:57.10] <wptmj> :P
[07:57.12] <P-1> AAAman is infinitely more intelligent than MAGA Boomer gannon :)\
[07:57.15] <seeker> >:O
[07:57.18] <gannon> bro you use bad words
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[07:57.32] <seeker> sounds like our ancestors needed to chill, euphony :P
[07:57.46] <wptmj> since when are simple words bad to intelligent people?
[07:57.56] <euphony> seeker, yee
[07:57.56] <gannon> i don't make the rules fella
[07:58.06] <AAAman> gannon-- Those who do not havethe facts nor the logic, make personal attacks
[07:58.16] <wptmj> just acquiesce to them
[07:58.21] <wptmj> you good little slave
[07:58.22] <gannon> look how dumb AAAman is
[07:58.23] <wptmj> :P
[07:58.27] <Slayer78_> wptmj: I think it was because of the flooding
[07:58.37] <wptmj> i know,
[07:58.40] <wptmj> :P
[07:58.44] <wptmj> no bad publicity
[07:58.49] <P-1> <gannon> look how dumb AAAman is <---- look how dumb Boomer gannon is
[07:59.01] <seeker> you know, for a place named #rebelyell they seem to not be very communist
[07:59.02] <IlumiNaughty> know bad publicity
[07:59.05] <gannon> Added *!*P-1
[07:59.05] <wptmj> I am trying to piss people off
[07:59.08] <seeker> they're fully reactionary
[07:59.10] <wptmj> deliberately
[07:59.17] <gannon> sad elderly loser is just a repeating hack
[07:59.23] <Slayer78_> seeker: intelligent people aren't Communist
[07:59.27] <seeker> they should be named #lumpenyell
[07:59.29] <+Debaser> gannon: is trump charged with organizing a mob and sending it to disrupt an official proceeding at the capitol
[07:59.34] <seeker> LMAO thank you for that Slayer78_
[07:59.38] <wptmj> and i was flooding with HUMOR
[07:59.42] <wptmj> quality laughs!
[07:59.58] <wptmj> i wonder if im banned
[08:00.00] <seeker> that's by far the funniest thing I've heard so far today :P
[08:00.02] <gannon> dunno is he
[08:00.23] <+Debaser> Rebel yell is a Confederac reference, seeker
[08:00.24] <Cleland> Go Fannie!!!!
[08:00.26] <Cleland> ＋https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/13/politics/coffee-county-georgia-voting-system-breach-trump/index.html，
[08:00.27] <@Lard> [url] Exclusive: Georgia prosecutors have messages showing Trump's team is behind voting system breach | CNN Politics | ＋www.cnn.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2xu5mv4e， )
[08:00.27] <+Debaser> Not sure if you knew
[08:00.35] <Cleland> They have the actual messages!!
[08:00.36] <Cleland> lol
[08:00.49] <+Debaser> Cleland: they're in deep shit lol
[08:00.54] <+Debaser> Awesome
[08:00.56] <gannon> lol are they
[08:00.57] <gannon> lol
[08:01.00] <Cleland> Someone hand Gannon a tissue so he can clean the shit from Trumps anus of his nose
[08:01.06] <P-1> lol
[08:01.10] <Cleland> Yeah I always thought Georgia was the key
[08:01.16] <gannon> you guys got the CNN exclusive
[08:01.18] <Cleland> Thats where he did the most obvious election fraud shit
[08:02.01] <Cleland> I mean they actually tried to access voting machines
[08:02.03] <gannon> i'm not a trumper, i just think prosecuting your political opponents is some third world shit and wrong
[08:02.06] <gannon> sorry for having principles
[08:02.07] <Cleland> This takes it to a whole different level
[08:02.14] <seeker> I didn't know that, Debaser :O
[08:02.15] <Slayer78_> gannon: agreed
[08:02.23] <gannon> i notice you guys love it though
[08:02.28] <seeker> that's extremely appropriate
[08:02.38] <gannon> the guy being targeted is the guy you also hate
[08:02.39] <Cleland> Only in his little fascist peanut brain, can Gannon see this as victimization of the cult leader
[08:02.53] <gannon> that's like a bonus
[08:02.58] <seeker> just like the members of the confederacy wanted to preserve an abusive economic model, so do the reactionaries of today
[08:03.04] <wptmj> ＋https://laughdispenser.blogspot.com/p/pranks.html，
[08:03.05] <@Lard> [url] The whole world is cashed! I'm going to load another bowl!: pranks | laughdispenser.blogspot.com ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2yzcd7ad， )
[08:03.09] <+dry_> <gannon> i'm not a trumper, i just think prosecuting your political opponents is some third world shit and wrong <-- which ignores the merits of the charges
[08:03.10] <+Debaser> “Most immediately, we were just granted access – by written invitation! – to Coffee County’s systems. Yay!” the text reads.
[08:03.13] <+Debaser> Yay!
[08:03.20] <Cleland> hahah
[08:03.21] <+Debaser> We're going to jail! Yay!
[08:03.27] <Cleland> Actually trying to break into voting systems
[08:03.29] <Cleland> My God
[08:03.32] <gannon> look at the culters who believe there's actual merit to the charges
[08:03.36] <P-1> gannon: youre Trump's biggest apologist/defender on this channel.....You're not bullshitting anyone.
[08:03.40] <wptmj> jail can be real fun
[08:03.43] <wptmj> and hella educational
[08:03.55] <+Debaser> gannon: You're out of your mind you know
[08:03.59] <seeker> heck, some of the greatest men from history had times in jail
[08:04.00] <wptmj> plenty of time to fast and meditate
[08:04.01] <Cleland> I don’t like Trump, but heck a whiff of his feces is what Gannon live for
[08:04.08] <IlumiNaughty> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pga45vKwGo，
[08:04.08] <@Lard> [YouTube] The Moment Cops Realized They Couldn't Even Fabricate False Charges on This Guy | 33m 17s | Here's the Deal | 134,028 views
[08:04.22] <+DaveTee> <gannon> i'm not a trumper, i just think prosecuting your political opponents is some third world shit and wrong<----- So I guess political opponents can commit any crime they want to, huh?
[08:04.27] <+dry_> gannon: reality winner, chelsea manning received prison sentences for mishandling classified documents. Why is it wrong for charges to be brought against Trump for the same crime?
[08:04.27] <seeker> eugene debs
[08:04.45] <wptmj> ive got some great jail stories
[08:04.46] <Slayer78_> Reality Winner: still the funniest name on planet earth
[08:04.50] <wptmj> please peruse
[08:04.52] <wptmj> ＋https://laughdispenser.blogspot.com/p/justicewillbedone.html，
[08:04.53] <@Lard> [url] The whole world is cashed! I'm going to load another bowl!: JUSTICEWILLBEDONE | laughdispenser.blogspot.com ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2a8of629， )
[08:04.54] <gannon> like these specious and novel legal theories being wielded against the current administration's chief political opponent 2.5 years after he left office, but right on the eve of a new election season - is totally about Blind Lady Justice and the rule of law and not a transparently political prosecution
[08:05.18] <+dry_> stealing classified documents is illegal
[08:05.20] <gannon> imagine how stupid you have to be, how deep into the cult you have to be, to believe that
[08:05.23] <+DaveTee> Slayer78_, weren't you a huge Jew-hater not all that long ago?
[08:05.26] <+dry_> forging election documents is illegal
[08:05.33] <Cleland> trying to overthrow a legal eletion is illegal
[08:05.36] <Cleland> you fucking imbecile
[08:05.39] <Slayer78_> DaveTee: it seems a eternity ago to me
[08:05.40] <+dry_> so the charges seem pretty obvious
[08:05.43] <gannon> they believe all this lol
[08:05.44] <Cleland> You aren’t concerned about that this head
[08:05.46] <P-1> seeker: LOL...i worked on a dark comedy about the fictitious grandson of eugene debs
[08:05.49] <Cleland> lol
[08:05.55] <seeker> :O
[08:05.58] <Cleland> Oh its okay to try to break into voting machines
[08:06.00] <seeker> that's cool
[08:06.05] <+dry_> gannon: of course it's believed. we read about the fbi search that found the classified documents
[08:06.07] <gannon> did Trump break into voting machines now
[08:06.08] <Cleland> Gannon just fucking shut up
[08:06.09] <gannon> looool
[08:06.24] <+Timur> Cleland: care for a spare /ignore ?
[08:06.30] <+dry_> we can see the fake election documents because thy were submitted
[08:06.31] <+Timur> I have plenty, they're free. :)
[08:06.34] <+DaveTee> Slayer78_, not to normal people. To normal people it seems like just yesterday that you were a huge Jew-hater
[08:06.37] <Cleland> No I enjoy mocking this moron
[08:06.44] <gannon> as President of the United States, he had the unilateral authority to declassify any document, but let's charge him with illegal possession of classified documents
[08:06.46] <gannon> loooool
[08:06.50] <Cleland> Slayer what happened
[08:06.51] <Slayer78_> DaveTee: well, I judge me before you judge me
[08:06.52] <Cleland> What changed you
[08:06.55] <gannon> i mean it's clear cut, smoking gun and stuff
[08:06.56] <Cleland> Andy our buddy GAnnon
[08:06.56] <+dry_> gannon: but he didn't declassify them
[08:07.00] <IlumiNaughty> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MlMQPfoq3I，
[08:07.01] <@Lard> [YouTube] Inside Gorbachev's USSR (1990) | 56m 59s | Mike Guardia | 217,986 views
[08:07.06] <Cleland> Slayer78_ so why the end of the Jew hating
[08:07.07] <Slayer78_> You're free to live in the past, especially as it's fucking pointless
[08:07.10] <+dry_> he could have declassified them... but he didn't
[08:07.13] <Cleland> Slayer78_ but what happened
[08:07.29] <Cleland> How did you go from hardcore 88 to 78
[08:07.30] <seeker> you've been a very naughty boy, Slayer78_!
[08:07.31] <Cleland> WTF
[08:07.33] <seeker> enjoy your spankings :D
[08:07.36] <Cleland> Thats a big change
[08:07.46] <Cleland> I mean you went from Holocaust denial to loving Jews
[08:07.54] <+dry_> so... if he didn't declassify them, and they were still classified, and he still stole them... that's against the law
[08:08.01] <gannon> look how dumb dry is
[08:08.11] <+dry_> look at gannon not address the points
[08:08.32] <P-1> <gannon> look how dumb dry is <---- look how dumb gannon is
[08:08.35] <Cleland> gannon is a dumber version of his fellow nazi-Slayer--but dumber
[08:08.38] <Cleland> I didn’t think that was possible
[08:08.46] <Cleland> How can anyone be dumber then Mr. Sentient
[08:08.48] <IlumiNaughty> I'm leaving because gannon is stupid
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[08:08.53] <gannon> remember - the Other Guy is the dummy, not you
[08:08.55] <Cleland> I mean thats one of the great moron moments in IRC history
[08:09.05] <Cleland> Gannon were you a breach birth
[08:09.14] <+dry_> gannon: is it illegal to steal classified documents? yes or no?
[08:09.22] <+dry_> shouldn't be hard to answer
[08:09.48] <seeker> I think my biggest issue with trump (among many others) is that he effectively felt he had the authority to forgo the tradition of the peaceful transfer of power
[08:09.48] <gannon> dry thinks that the President of the United States took documents that were classified and that somehow remain classified, even though he has the unilateral power as President to declassify them. He forgot to wave the magic wand, or something
[08:09.59] <gannon> good luck in court with that bro
[08:10.05] <+dry_> gannon: there is no record of Trump declassifying them
[08:10.21] <+dry_> saying "he could have" doesn't mean much if he didn't declassify them
[08:10.36] <gannon> dry thinks Trump needs to show a receipt for his declassifying stuff
[08:10.51] <P-1> so naturally he lied about having the documents, then admitted it and refused to turn them over
[08:11.15] <+dry_> yes, process dictates working with the national archives to declassify documents, since the National Archives is responsible for tracking classified documents
[08:11.35] <gannon> customs and laws aren't the same thing bro
[08:11.39] <euphony> Illuminaughty you might find this interesting ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgT-wR29aIU，
[08:11.39] <@Lard> [YouTube] How the USSR Collapsed on Soviet TV | 13m 47s | Ordinary Things | 4,234,109 views
[08:11.41] <gannon> what law says Trump needs to show a receipt
[08:12.13] <+dry_> gannon: if there is no receipt, how are you saying it was declassified?
[08:12.28] <Cleland> documents are so minor--its the election fraud
[08:12.28] <Cleland> lol
[08:12.42] <+dry_> national archives... whose job it is to manage the documents... says they are classified
[08:12.49] <+dry_> pretty simple
[08:12.56] <P-1> Trump handled the situation just like any malignant narcissist would......because he knows MAGA cultists, like gannon, would fight to try to bend reality in Trump's favor....that doesnt work in federal court.
[08:13.06] <gannon> As the new ABA Legal Fact Check notes, the extent of a president’s legal authority to unilaterally declassify materials — without following formal procedures — has yet to be challenged in court.
[08:13.11] <gannon> ＋https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2022/10/fact-check-presidential-authority/，
[08:13.13] <@Lard> [url] Fact check explores presidential authority to declassify | ＋www.americanbar.org， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2fpmqkzo， )
[08:13.15] <+dry_> we know this because there is a communications trail of them asking Trump for the documents back saying they are classified
[08:13.19] <gannon> dry knows more about the law than the American Bar Association
[08:13.33] <AAAman> Even delcassified documents belong to the Govt
[08:14.00] <AAAman> President may only take personal papers into retirement
[08:14.18] <+dry_> gannon: from your article "In all cases, however, a formal procedure is required so governmental agencies know with certainty what has been declassified and decisions memorialized. A federal appeals court in a 2020 Freedom of Information Act case, New York Times v. CIA, underscored that point: “Declassification cannot occur unless designated officials follow specified procedures,” the court said.
[08:14.25] <+dry_> did you read it?
[08:14.52] <gannon> that's about people who are Not President
[08:15.00] <+dry_> gannon: so... as per your own article, Trump had to go through the declassification process in order to declassify
[08:15.05] <gannon> But as an ABA Legal Fact Check posted Oct. 17 explains, legal guidelines support his contention that presidents have broad authority to formally declassify most documents that are not statutorily protected, while they are in office.
[08:15.21] <+dry_> gannon: no. "In All Cases" first three words of the paragraph
[08:15.32] <seeker> :o
[08:15.32] <gannon> per my own article, the PRESIDENT has broad authority to declassify documents, and the extent and limits of that authority have yet to be challenged in court
[08:15.50] <AAAman> In all cases
[08:16.05] <gannon> references to "officials" otherwise means persons who are Not The President lol
[08:16.06] <+dry_> gannon: right which is about the Presidents ability to declassify documents. however, in all cases, has to go through the process of classification
[08:16.23] <Slayer78_> The utter despair of 'trying to get Trump ', not to mention the utter and absolute idiocy in thinking you've somehow got it right 'this time '.., I mean, fucking give it up
[08:16.31] <gannon> look at hos they cope and struggle
[08:16.33] <gannon> how
[08:16.42] <+dry_> gannon: your own article undermines your argument
[08:16.50] <gannon> <gannon> As the new ABA Legal Fact Check notes, the extent of a president’s legal authority to unilaterally declassify materials — without following formal procedures — has yet to be challenged in court.
[08:17.01] <AAAman> Trump is getting himself --
[08:17.05] <gannon> someone help dry read that
[08:17.13] <Slayer78_> He won't
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[08:17.13] <seeker> lol dry is right, gannon
[08:17.21] <gannon> maybe a highlight will help
[08:17.22] <AAAman> gannon` URL?
[08:17.23] <+dry_> gannon: which is discussing some classified documents like nukes - Some secrets, such as information related to nuclear weapons, are handled separately under a specific statutory scheme that Congress has adopted under the Atomic Energy Act. Those secrets cannot be automatically declassified by the president alone and require, by law, extensive consultation with executive branch agencies.
[08:17.26] <Slayer78_> For it undermine the narrative
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[08:17.41] <gannon> <gannon> <gannon> As the new ABA Legal Fact Check notes, the extent of a president’s legal authority to unilaterally declassify materials — WITHOUT FOLLOWING FORMAL PROCEDURES — has yet to be challenged in court.
[08:17.45] <+dry_> gannon: so that's where the discussion is regarding whether or not Trump can declassify
[08:17.47] <gannon> loooool
[08:17.47] <AAAman> gannon` URL?
[08:17.56] <gannon> ＋https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2022/10/fact-check-presidential-authority/，
[08:17.57] <@Lard> [url] Fact check explores presidential authority to declassify | ＋www.americanbar.org， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2fpmqkzo， )
[08:18.04] <+dry_> In all cases, however, a formal procedure is required so governmental agencies know with certainty what has been declassified and decisions memorialized. A federal appeals court in a 2020 Freedom of Information Act case, New York Times v. CIA, underscored that point: “Declassification cannot occur unless designated officials follow specified procedures,” the court said.
[08:18.28] <gannon> look how dry just ignores the important part
[08:18.42] <Slayer78_> dry_: instead of banging your head against a wall, why not, you know, read what the man posted?
[08:18.46] <+dry_> you mean the part that says in all cases formal procedure is required?
[08:18.47] <seeker> if anything, it's an open-ended article, gannon
[08:18.47] <gannon> dry read the capitalized bits along with me bro
[08:18.49] <gannon> As the new ABA Legal Fact Check notes, the extent of a president’s legal authority to unilaterally declassify materials — WITHOUT FOLLOWING FORMAL PROCEDURES — has yet to be challenged in court.
[08:18.53] <+kmh> there was an important part
[08:18.56] <AAAman> gannon--broad authority to formally declassify most documents that are not statutorily protected, while they are in office.
[08:19.00] <seeker> "As the new ABA Legal Fact Check notes, the extent of a president’s legal authority to unilaterally declassify materials — without following formal procedures — has yet to be challenged in court."
[08:19.01] <gannon> dry read with me bro
[08:19.04] <gannon> WITHOUT FOLLOWING
[08:19.06] <gannon> FORMAL PROCEDURES
[08:19.10] <AAAman> gannon -- Except these were protected
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[08:19.13] <gannon> has yet to be challenged in court
[08:19.16] <gannon> loooool
[08:19.20] <+dry_> gannon: which means that the law is clear, but hasn't been challenged in court
[08:19.21] <+kmh> ah yes - gry you overlooked the obvious - it's never Trump's fault
[08:19.27] <gannon> dry post more about how "formal procedures are required"
[08:19.52] <+dry_> gannon: why? you seem to have read that part, but are ignoring it for some reason
[08:19.54] <+kmh> dry_, cause he's da man with ze perfect unclassifications
[08:19.55] <P-1> shhh gannon doesnt know about the obstruction charges either
[08:20.12] <gannon> dry thinks the "law is clear" despite something never been brought before judges and ruled on
[08:20.23] <+kmh> P-1, i'm surre he knows
[08:20.27] <gannon> Added *!*drycider0
[08:20.30] <Slayer78_> kmh: well imo I don't understand why the left is so desperate towards Trump... throwing spaghetti against a wall, hoping it sticks isn't a good strategy
[08:20.34] <gannon> at some point obvious is just obvious
[08:20.35] <seeker> you don't need case precedence for a legal standing
[08:20.41] <+kmh> P-1, but only those considered by congress for Biden
[08:20.41] <gannon> this dude is retarded or trolling
[08:20.49] <+dry_> Slayer78_: not about Trump. the law was broken when the documents were stolen
[08:20.51] <seeker> if that were true then there would never be cases in the first place to set precedence :P
[08:21.00] <+dry_> anyone else would receive harsher treatment
[08:21.06] <Slayer78_> dry_: oh it's solely about Trump
[08:21.07] <P-1> Slayer: or ketchup
[08:21.09] <gannon> law and it's application in the US is based on precedent
[08:21.30] <+dry_> Slayer78_: I've given you examples of other people that received prison sentences for stealing classified material
[08:21.33] <gannon> that's why when you read legal decisions like from the USSC they are filled with citations to earlier cases
[08:21.39] <+dry_> why do you think Trump should get different treatment?
[08:21.46] <seeker> so you can only enforce laws that have been enforced before? I don't think that's how the legal system works
[08:21.53] <Slayer78_> dry_: other people weren't former Executives
[08:21.53] <gannon> that's how it works in the US
[08:22.07] <+dry_> Slayer78_: former executives are the same under the law
[08:22.12] <+dry_> they don't get to steal shit
[08:22.16] <gannon> legislatures pass laws and the police and prosecutors enforce them
[08:22.17] <seeker> so when congress passes a law, its measures can't be enforced until somebody's already been prosecuted for their violation?
[08:22.22] <P-1> Slayer: didnt trump push for stronger penalties for mishandling of classified documents?
[08:22.26] <gannon> UNTIL they are challenged and reviewed by courts
[08:22.28] <seeker> because there's no case precedence?
[08:22.31] <+dry_> <gannon> legislatures pass laws and the police and prosecutors enforce them <-- which is what's happening
[08:22.34] <+dry_> lol
[08:22.45] <Slayer78_> dry_: again, it's alledged he stole shit... not yet proven
[08:22.54] <gannon> there's precedent for everything
[08:22.57] <+dry_> Slayer78_: right, that's what the trial will be for
[08:23.00] <seeker> lol no there's not
[08:23.03] <seeker> that's ridiculous
[08:23.04] <gannon> before US law there was English common law
[08:23.06] <Slayer78_> P-1: you would know more than I
[08:23.13] <+dry_> Slayer78_: that said, evidence is pretty compelling given the communications and the fbi search
[08:23.19] <seeker> that's basically saying that "everything has happened before"
[08:23.37] <Slayer78_> What is most evident is the utter despair of the liberals
[08:23.42] <gannon> civilization is hundreds of years old bro
[08:23.45] <gannon> maybe read a book
[08:24.01] <gannon> will libs be sad when Trump gets reelected
[08:24.01] <P-1> and then to not only LIE about handling the documents, but instructing your staff to lie to the fbi about the documents and go as far as having "drills" at Mar a Lardo in case law enforcement comes for the documents.
[08:24.04] <gannon> won't that be fun lol
[08:24.08] <+dry_> Slayer78_: Trump appears to have broken the law, and now he's been charged for it... what's the problem?
[08:24.10] <seeker> I can smell copium
[08:24.20] <Slayer78_> gannon: they will have only themselves to blame too
[08:24.44] <Slayer78_> dry_: the problem? These cases aren't credible at all
[08:24.50] <gannon> Stare Decisis—a Latin term that means “let the decision stand” or “to stand by things decided”—is a foundational concept in the American legal system. To put it simply, stare decisis holds that courts and judges should honor “precedent”—or the decisions, rulings, and opinions from prior cases. Respect for precedents gives the law consistency and makes interpretations of the
[08:24.50] <gannon> law more predictable
[08:24.53] <+dry_> Slayer78_: why do you believe that?
[08:24.56] <gannon> ＋https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_education/publications/preview_home/understand-stare-decisis/，
[08:24.57] <@Lard> [url] Understanding Stare Decisis | ＋www.americanbar.org， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/26r3t5me， )
[08:25.10] <+Debaser> if Trump had declassified the material why arent the materials made public?
[08:25.32] <Slayer78_> dry_: because a small review of any of them reveal their obvious faults, as gannon just did a minute ago re 'stolen documents '
[08:25.33] <+Debaser> why did he tell someone it was still classified in the audio recording
[08:25.45] <+JustBeKalm> Good morning, all the good folks who are more awake than me
[08:25.57] <gannon> Added *!*threedogs
[08:26.00] <seeker> okay, so where's the precedent for a US president being prosecuted for non-procedural declassification of documents for personal use/storage
[08:26.19] <+dry_> Slayer78_: no idea how you arrive at that conclusion. the agency responsible for managing classified documents says Trump took classified documents. then the FBI searches Trump's house and finds classified documents
[08:26.23] <+dry_> seems pretty simple
[08:26.27] <+JustBeKalm> The dogs are coming, seeker :) Okay, carry on.
[08:26.27] <seeker> since civilization is "hundreds of years old bro"
[08:26.34] <seeker> sure it's happened before, right gannon?
[08:26.40] <gannon> never happened before
[08:26.41] <seeker> awww puppies :)
[08:26.48] <Slayer78_> dry_: well, it's your choice to swallow braindead propaganda
[08:26.54] <seeker> so how do they make a legal decision in this case?
[08:26.56] <+dry_> Slayer78_: which part is propaganda?
[08:27.11] <Slayer78_> dry_: see the thread before
[08:27.12] <+dry_> Slayer78_: are you denying the national archives is responsible for managing classified documents?
[08:27.42] <Slayer78_> dry_: it's all been explained beforehand... but sure, you can be sure thicker
[08:27.45] <P-1> no president has been indicted for selling crack before, so it's never been tested in court.....so no crime has been committed ..derp derp derp
[08:27.46] <gannon> until deranged politically motivated authoritarian culter Democrats came along, nobody ever thought to charge a guy who had the unilateral power to declassify documents with possession of classified documents
[08:27.54] <gannon> so again, good luck in court lol
[08:28.05] <+dry_> Slayer78_: it hasn't been explained. I have no idea what part you're claiming is propaganda
[08:28.12] <+Debaser> gannon: trump himself says the documents are classified though
[08:28.14] <seeker> it will come down to interpretation, I'm sure
[08:28.15] <+Debaser> after he left office
[08:28.20] <Slayer78_> dry_: if you can't read, you should leave
[08:28.40] <+dry_> Slayer78_: what part is propaganda?
[08:28.51] <seeker> yeah, that's pretty damning, because then he's not in possession of declassified documents
[08:29.00] <gannon> until deranged politically motivated authoritarian culter Democrats came along, nobody ever thought to charge a guy with felonies for what is at best a misdemeanor for mislabelling a private payment as a legal expense
[08:29.14] <+dry_> no guys... the fbi planted the declassified documents
[08:29.31] <seeker> so the basis for his case is that he declassified documents, took them, and then called them classified anyway?
[08:29.40] <Slayer78_> gannon: to say nothing of the January 6 charges.... he will beat them because of the 1st Amendment
[08:29.53] <gannon> until deranged politically motivated authoritarian culter Democrats came along, nobody ever thought to charge a guy with "knowingly" conspiring to obstruct and overthrow an election when all available evidence suggests he truly believed it was stolen, and continues to believe it today
[08:29.59] <+Debaser> “Declassify it,” Mr. Trump says. “See, as president I could have declassified it, but now I can’t.”
[08:29.59] <+Debaser> “Now we have a problem,” the woman says, laughing.
[08:29.59] <+Debaser> “It’s so cool,” Mr. Trump says, eventually calling out for someone to bring in Coca-Cola to drink.
[08:30.05] <gannon> good luck in court with all that
[08:30.08] <gannon> loooooool
[08:30.17] <seeker> what I'm gathering from this is that if the court were to rule in Trump's favor, it would be precedent for a sitting US President to basically take all of the country's secrets without telling anybody about it and it would be totally legal
[08:30.32] <+dry_> no, he secretly declassified them, and didn't steal them... had a year long back and forth with the national archives about returning them... signed a document promising he returned them all (despite not taking them) and then the fbi planted them
[08:30.35] <Slayer78_> gannon: about which, is Jack Smith likely to sue Hillary Clinton because of RussiaGate as well?
[08:30.40] <+Debaser> gannon: even if he truly believes it was stolen he cant start a criminal conspiracy to get into power
[08:30.42] <+Debaser> lol.
[08:30.51] <seeker> I think my problem with you, gannon, is that you pretend to be objective, but when scrutiny doesn't rule in your favor, you retreat to coping
[08:30.53] <gannon> the law says different bro
[08:30.53] <+Debaser> not legally
[08:31.03] <+dry_> law doesn't say different
[08:31.04] <seeker> hence all the "lols" and "bros"
[08:31.10] <Slayer78_> But she lied about the election too
[08:31.13] <+dry_> In all cases, however, a formal procedure is required so governmental agencies know with certainty what has been declassified and decisions memorialized. A federal appeals court in a 2020 Freedom of Information Act case, New York Times v. CIA, underscored that point: “Declassification cannot occur unless designated officials follow specified procedures,” the court said.
[08:31.17] <gannon> to prove the conspiracy charges, they have to prove Trump knew the claims of election fraud were false
[08:31.28] <+dry_> false
[08:31.30] <P-1> DERP DERP DERPITY DERP ＋https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-signed-a-law-making-mishandling-classified-docs-a-felony，
[08:31.32] <@Lard> [url] Trump Signed a Law Making Mishandling Classified Docs a Felony | ＋www.thedailybeast.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/28nnzmcw， )
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[08:31.54] <seeker> they probably forged that signature :^)
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[08:32.15] <+dry_> <gannon> to prove the conspiracy charges, they have to prove Trump knew the claims of election fraud were false <-- right, to prove bank robbery, have to prove the robber knew the money wasn't his. If he believed the 5K was his, pointing a gun at a teller is fine
[08:32.24] <Slayer78_> If Smith doesn't sue Clinton, does it make it so that the Trump charges are politically motivated?
[08:32.27] <+dry_> same reasoning
[08:32.47] <katy_fr> Actually, the charges are not at all related to what Trump believes
[08:32.48] <+JustBeKalm> Oh boy. Misinformation central.
[08:32.57] <seeker> it's a party JustBeKalm :P
[08:32.59] <+JustBeKalm> Hi, all. I'm not jumping into this :)
[08:33.09] <seeker> but we're having so much fun!
[08:33.10] <+JustBeKalm> seeker, haha. Did you hug my dogs yet? I sent them.
[08:33.10] <+dry_> the charges are not about saying he won the election. the charges about organizing an effort to steal the election via fake electors
[08:33.20] * seeker hugs JustBeKalm dogs and gives them the most love
[08:33.26] <+JustBeKalm> :)
[08:33.38] <euphony> I am once again asking you folks to remember not to let a conservative gaslight you into thinking they respect law and order. They respect white supremacy and cruelty, that is all. Its how they make the leap that Trump, a 50 times proven fraud, is law and order, while the fbi are the 'deep state'
[08:33.39] <+JustBeKalm> I"m still on cuppa # 1. I can't argue yet :)))
[08:33.44] <seeker> :D
[08:33.48] <Slayer78_> dry_: you're free to believe that you think that
[08:33.59] <+dry_> Slayer78_: it's what the indictment says
[08:34.03] <+dry_> try reading it
[08:34.09] <seeker> dogs don't promote misinformation on the internet!
[08:34.23] <Slayer78_> dry_: I prefer actual literature, not political bullshit
[08:34.36] <+JustBeKalm> OJ Simpson shot his ex wife. He had a trial. The moronic jurors said he was innocent so legally he was. Doesn't mean he didn't murder her and her friend.
[08:34.38] <+dry_> Slayer78_: you think the indictment is political bullshit?
[08:34.40] <+JustBeKalm> Duh.
[08:34.42] <Slayer78_> Yes
[08:34.46] <seeker> .quote add <Slayer78_> dry_: I prefer actual literature, not political bullshit
[08:34.49] <@Lard> quote [2124] added: <Slayer78_> dry_: I prefer actual literature, not political bullshit .
[08:34.57] <gannon> ＋https://youtu.be/aZJtPUiOw5o，
[08:35.03] <+dry_> Slayer78_: do you think it's legal to submit forged election documents?
[08:35.08] <+JustBeKalm> Kyle Rittenhouse killed two people. The idiot jury said he did it in self defense.Doesn't mean it's true
[08:35.11] <gannon> the scholars in here know more about the law than Alan Dershowitz
[08:35.18] <+JustBeKalm> ANd Donald Trump is guilty, regardless of the jury.
[08:35.22] <Slayer78_> JustBeKalm: in that example, it was
[08:35.25] <gannon> Professor Emeritus at Harvard Law School lol
[08:35.26] <euphony> bbl
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[08:35.32] * dry_ has never been sanctioned like Dershowitz... so maybe :)
[08:35.35] <@Lard> [YouTube] Alan Dershowitz: Evidence Against Trump Is WEAK, Indictment Could CRIMINALIZE Free Speech? | 11m 52s | The Hill | 49,563 views
[08:35.47] <P-1> mindless cult stooges will always try to justify the illegal actions of their cult leader
[08:35.48] <Slayer78_> JustBeKalm: wanting someone to be guilty isn't the same as them being guilty
[08:36.19] <katy_fr> Alan Dershowitz?
[08:36.20] <+JustBeKalm> Slayer78_, well, in our justice system if the jury gets it wrong, your still innocent. I'm a true crime bluff. I"ve seen many botched cases. But we have to abide by the decisions of the jury or we're REALLY fucked. I have no way of knowing what the Trump jury will do :)
[08:36.22] <seeker> I suppose we'll see, Slayer78_
[08:36.27] <+dry_> ＋https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/alan-dershowitz-ordered-pay-limited-sanctions-arizona-election-case-2023-07-14/，
[08:36.29] <@Lard> [url] Alan Dershowitz ordered to pay limited sanctions in Arizona election case | Reuters | ＋www.reuters.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2ym82o5c， )
[08:36.33] <katy_fr> Of the Epstein Dershowitzes?
[08:36.40] <+dry_> all the best lawyers get sanctioned
[08:36.45] <katy_fr> Imagine taking him seriously on ANYTHING
[08:36.55] <Slayer78_> gannon: what a predictable response.. they smear the guy
[08:37.04] <+Debaser> Even attorney Alan Dershowitz, who was part of Trump's first impeachment defense team, has repeatedly declined offers to join Trump's team, including as recently as last month.
[08:37.06] <+Debaser> lmaooooooo
[08:37.07] <+dry_> Slayer78_: how is it a smear if it's accurate?
[08:37.20] <seeker> sounds unbiased!
[08:37.30] <P-1> trump knows he's fucked.....that's why his strategy is to try to delay, delay, delay.... because his only hope is winning the election and rigging the system to pardon himself LOL
[08:37.46] <Slayer78_> dry_: you're against what the dude wrote, so you smear him, de facto not even appealing to the man's arguments
[08:38.06] <Slayer78_> It's predictable leftist bullshit
[08:38.07] <Cleland> Sentient
[08:38.10] <+dry_> Slayer78_: pointing out that he's recently been sanctioned by the court for wasting the courts time with bullshit legal challenges
[08:38.13] <Cleland> you piece of Nazi shit
[08:38.32] <+dry_> Slayer78_: if a lawyer is being sanctioned by the court, doesn't reflect well on them as a lawyer
[08:38.39] <Slayer78_> dry_: which again has fuck all to do with what he wrote
[08:38.51] <gannon> "The Supreme Court has ruled that there's no such thing as a false opinion. If he (Trump) had the opinion that he had won the election, then the corruption allegations cannot stand."
[08:38.51] <+dry_> Slayer78_: lol, entirely to do with what gannon wrote
[08:38.52] <gannon> ＋https://youtu.be/aZJtPUiOw5o?t=118，
[08:38.53] <@Lard> [YouTube] Alan Dershowitz: Evidence Against Trump Is WEAK, Indictment Could CRIMINALIZE Free Speech? | 11m 52s | The Hill | 49,564 views
[08:38.59] <gannon> is Dersh wrong? Explain
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[08:39.38] <+dry_> yes, Dersh is wrong because the charges are not about Trump believing the election was stolen. Charges are about organizing effort to overturn election via fraudulent electors
[08:40.02] <+dry_> difference between someone saying the bank has $5000 of their money, versus trying to rob the bank
[08:40.25] <+dry_> saying "the bank has my money" - legal || trying to rob the bank - illegal
[08:40.52] <gannon> just remember folks
[08:40.57] <+dry_> if Trump has just gone around saying the election was stolen... totally cool
[08:40.59] <+JustBeKalm> Nothing is going to give this e lection to Trump.
[08:41.01] <gannon> when there's no more hope, and you're out of cope, there's always dope
[08:41.01] <katy_fr> Thousands of people say the election was stolen. Only those who have taken actual criminal steps to commit fraud on that basis have been chargedm
[08:41.04] <+JustBeKalm> Nor is lying illegal.
[08:41.24] <+dry_> problem is he organized a group of people to submit fake documents claiming the states had certified the election for Trump when they did not
[08:41.33] <Slayer78_> I'm out
[08:41.41] <+JustBeKalm> And I think we'll have trouble finding a non biased jury for Trump, even if the jurors say "I swear, I don't even know what happened!"
[08:41.46] <Slayer78_> dry_: may the courts prove it then
[08:41.50] <+dry_> Slayer78_: indeed
[08:41.51] <gannon> "actual criminal steps to commit fraud" lol
[08:42.03] <Slayer78_> I'm out
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[08:42.19] <+dry_> Slayer78_: the documents and the electors saying Trump campaign organized it is pretty clear evidence
[08:42.23] <AAAman> gannon -- If you believe the bank cheated you on your account then you can rob the bank?
[08:42.27] <Relics> The US reputation for being a democracy is taking a hit, regardless of the outcome.
[08:42.36] <gannon> look how dumb AAAman is
[08:42.42] <AAAman> dry_` -- False electors
[08:43.01] <+gadfly> ＋https://www.thedailybeast.com/marion-county-record-subjected-to-police-raid-after-unpublished-dui-story-about-restaurateur-kari-newell，
[08:43.02] <@Lard> [url] Marion County Record Subjected to Police Raid After Unpublished DUI Story About Restaurateur Kari Newell | ＋www.thedailybeast.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/22egywpg， )
[08:43.09] <+JustBeKalm> Who are we taking a hit from? And why should we care?
[08:43.38] <+gadfly> these cops and this judge are about to get ****ed
[08:43.50] <AAAman> ＋https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4149328-wisconsin-judge-rejects-bid-dismiss-case-fake-trump-electors-attorneys/，
[08:43.51] <@Lard> [url] Wisconsin judge rejects bid to dismiss case against fake Trump electors, attorneys | The Hill | thehill.com ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/24jqxwfa， )
[08:44.18] <AAAman> The case centers on an effort to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election by submitting false slates of electors for Trump in seven targeted battleground states, including Wisconsin, where President Biden won.
[08:44.43] <Relics> The Democrats in 16 denied the election and called Trump illegitimate. The GOP in 20 denied the election and called Trump illegitimate
[08:44.50] <+JustBeKalm> Good luck with Wisconsin. We won't do it.
[08:45.09] <Cleland> Basterdon
[08:45.13] <Cleland> concentrate
[08:45.16] <Relics> I mean Biden
[08:45.19] <Cleland> You fucking right wing imbecile
[08:45.21] <+gadfly> gannon quotes dershowitz
[08:45.23] <+gadfly> lol
[08:45.29] <Cleland> Nobody stormed the capitol
[08:45.34] <AAAman> relics --Clinton in 2016 said Trump was elected
[08:45.34] <Cleland> nobody threatened electors
[08:45.40] <Cleland> you piece of unbelievable shit
[08:45.41] <+JustBeKalm> gannon's only friend just left.
[08:45.42] <Cleland> lol
[08:45.45] <Cleland> Basterdon
[08:45.48] <Cleland> The fucking primitive
[08:45.55] <gannon> show where Dershowitz is wrong
[08:46.00] <Cleland> HOld on
[08:46.02] <Relics> AAAman Hillary Clinton in 16 said Trump was illegitimate president
[08:46.12] <+dry_> Relics: which is fine
[08:46.18] <katy_fr> Relics She did?
[08:46.21] <+dry_> there is nothing illegal about saying the election was stolen
[08:46.24] <Cleland> Do you have a quote BAsterdon
[08:46.24] <gannon> ＋https://youtu.be/uoMfIkz7v6s，
[08:46.25] <@Lard> [YouTube] Democrats' "Stolen" Election Claims | FLASHBACK | 4m 54s | Matt Orfalea | 209,960 views
[08:46.26] <Cleland> Do you have that quote
[08:46.27] <katy_fr> Got any evidence of that?
[08:46.28] <Cleland> Come on Basterdon
[08:46.28] <Relics> katy_fr yes.
[08:46.29] <gannon> how quick they forget
[08:46.31] <Cleland> Where is Hillary’s quote
[08:46.34] <Cleland> When she concede
[08:46.36] <Cleland> you fucking idiot
[08:46.37] <katy_fr> Relics where is it?
[08:46.39] <+dry_> what is illegal is organizing fake electors
[08:46.39] <Cleland> When did she concede
[08:46.41] <Cleland> THAT NIGHT
[08:46.41] <AAAman> ＋https://www.google.com/search?q=Clinton+in+2016+conceded+the+election&oq=Clinton+in+2016+conceded+the+election&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160l2.132946664j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#:~:text=Hillary%20Clinton%20conceded,Nov%209%2C%202016，
[08:46.42] <@Lard> [url] Clinton in 2016 conceded the election - Google Search | ＋www.google.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/24w52neq， )
[08:46.44] <Cleland> YOu fucking idiot
[08:46.48] <+JustBeKalm> Hillary didn't mess with the election results and I don't remember or anyoanae saying that. So, yep, show us.
[08:46.58] <AAAman> Idiots are posting lies again
[08:47.06] <Cleland> ＋https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/clinton-concedes-to-trump-we-owe-him-an-open-mind-231118，
[08:47.07] <@Lard> [url] Clinton concedes to Trump: 'We owe him an open mind' - POLITICO | ＋www.politico.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2xtdgmdd， )
[08:47.11] <Cleland> Now STFU
[08:47.18] <+dry_> Relics: do you understand it's illegal to submit fake election documents?
[08:47.24] <Cleland> Basertdon--STFU
[08:47.24] <Relics> ＋https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/30/hillary-clinton-calls-trump-illegitimate-president-sot-ip-vpx.cnn，
[08:47.26] <@Lard> [url] Hillary Clinton calls Trump 'illegitimate president' | CNN Politics | ＋www.cnn.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/y3bb8wem， )
[08:47.32] <gannon> "he's an illegitimate president" Clinton says twice
[08:47.36] <gannon> loooool
[08:47.41] <+JustBeKalm> That doesn't mean he didn't win. She's just saying to give him a chance, which most of us did...and he stomped on that.
[08:47.42] <+dry_> which is fine
[08:47.54] <+dry_> charges are because of the fake elector scheme
[08:48.02] <+dry_> not because of his statements
[08:48.13] <+dry_> again, people should read the indictment
[08:48.35] <gannon> "I think it's also critical to understand that, as I've been telling candidates who have come to see me, you can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you," Clinton said Saturday in Los Angeles.
[08:48.43] <gannon> ＋https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/05/06/hillary_clinton_you_can_run_the_best_campaign_and_have_the_election_stolen_from_you.html，
[08:48.44] <@Lard> [url] Hillary Clinton: You Can Run The Best Campaign And "Have The Election Stolen From You" | Video | RealClearPolitics | ＋www.realclearpolitics.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/274wjcvy， )
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[08:49.20] <+JustBeKalm> Personlly, I don't care what Hillary said. She didn't try to destroy our country. Trump did.
[08:49.21] <bacon> lard are you the op
[08:49.31] <+dry_> it's a fun strawman argument where you completely ignore what the indictment says the charges are for and pretent it's about something else entirely. Lets see if that approach works for the defense
[08:49.41] <+JustBeKalm> Actions speak louder than words, said my grandmother. She was right.
[08:49.55] <+gadfly> she conceded the next day
[08:50.16] <gannon> and Trump left the White House on the day he was supposed to
[08:50.18] <bacon> i guess hillary couldn't please bill
[08:50.19] <gannon> loooool
[08:50.26] <+gadfly> trump never conceded
[08:50.34] <+gadfly> and if he didnt leave he would be dragged out
[08:50.36] <gannon> there's no legal requirement to "concede"
[08:50.47] <gannon> but he wasn't dragged out, he left peacefully
[08:50.50] <gannon> looooool
[08:50.54] <+dry_> ＋https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fraudulent-electors-memo-kenneth-chesebro-trump-indictment/，
[08:50.55] <@Lard> [url] Newly unveiled memo cited in Trump indictment detailed false electors scheme - CBS News | ＋www.cbsnews.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/29czxdqs， )
[08:50.57] <+JustBeKalm> They're just being stubborn. Hillary did not break any laws or try to block Trump from taking over, even though she knew, as did all smart people, what a disaster he would be.
[08:50.58] <+gadfly> gannon, ??
[08:51.09] <+gadfly> he left so he wouldnt get dragged out
[08:51.16] <bacon> hillary didn't win
[08:51.25] <+gadfly> I never claimed hillary won
[08:51.25] <+JustBeKalm> bacon, duh.
[08:51.46] <+gadfly> hell I dont even like hillary
[08:51.48] <+JustBeKalm> But it was a bad call for the voters and we saw that afater he lost and insisted he won.
[08:51.49] <+dry_> A newly revealed memo authored by a Trump-allied attorney laid out a sweeping strategy for organizing Trump supporters to serve as fake electors in the wake of the 2020 election, shining new light on the origins of an alleged scheme that is central to the most recent indictment of former President Donald Trump. <-- always nice when they write down their plans for overturning the election
[08:51.49] <AAAman> Republican front-runner faces myriad legal challenges that threaten to derail his latest presidential bid
[08:51.54] <+gadfly> id rather have her than trump
[08:51.57] <gannon> President Donald Trump, holding hands with Melania Trump, left the White House for the final time as commander in chief shortly after 8 a.m. Wednesday, January 21, 2021
[08:51.58] <+gadfly> but that isnt sayin much
[08:52.05] <bacon> too bad she didn't go to prison. but at least not president is good
[08:52.10] <+gadfly> gannon, yeah he had no choice
[08:52.11] <+gadfly> lol
[08:52.17] <+gadfly> gannon, man you have low standards
[08:52.35] <+JustBeKalm> Hillary is smart and would not have tried to end our democracy. Some men, even liberal men I'm afraid, just did not like having a strong woman being our leader.
[08:52.46] <+JustBeKalm> It takes even liblerals time to get used to ch ange.
[08:52.58] <+gadfly> JustBeKalm, I like strong women and have supported many for office
[08:53.12] <bacon> hopefully anyone who's not woke wins
[08:53.13] <+gadfly> and I get sick of that kind of claim if you dont like hillary
[08:53.16] <+gadfly> you dont like women
[08:53.17] <+gadfly> etc
[08:53.18] <+JustBeKalm> "She has a screechy voice" can apply to any female and is not a go od reason to think s he would not have done a g ood job.
[08:53.27] <+gadfly> no she is just fake as hell
[08:53.34] <bacon> liberals aren't the brightest
[08:53.48] <+JustBeKalm> gadfly, POTUS is different. The compmlaints I heard from men were...........interesting.
[08:54.03] <gannon> Trump gave their empty lives some purpose
[08:54.12] <+dry_> JustBeKalm: brutal double standard
[08:54.36] <+dry_> women are judged for more harshly than men if they're aggressive / assertive
[08:54.37] <Relics> Public speaking is an important skill for a leader.
[08:54.49] <gannon> they can focus all their rage on the Hitler guy and pretend they are on the Right Side Of History and Crusaders for the Noble and Good
[08:54.52] <P-1> they accurately predicted that Trump would NEVER allow a peaceful transfer of power if he lost an election. The man is a malignant narcissist
[08:55.00] <+gadfly> P-1, yep
[08:55.05] <+JustBeKalm> dry, yep.
[08:55.24] <gannon> dem party elites understand this and fully exploit of course
[08:55.36] <+dry_> ＋https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/politics/michigan-fake-electors-bios/index.html，
[08:55.36] <@Lard> [url] What we know about the 16 fake electors charged in Michigan | CNN Politics | ＋www.cnn.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2jfv7st9， )
[08:55.37] <+JustBeKalm> gadfly, what is fake about Hillary?
[08:55.44] <gannon> even then they barely beat the Pizza Hut spokesman and failed casino magnate
[08:55.47] <+gadfly> gannon, nah we just hold everyone accountable for their crimes
[08:55.54] <+JustBeKalm> That sounds useless too. What politician isn't fake?
[08:55.56] <+gadfly> JustBeKalm, you ever see hillary down south using that fake accent
[08:56.01] <P-1> the fake electors are facing years in prison
[08:56.02] <+gadfly> I mean over the top BS
[08:56.09] <gannon> they can't let it get that close next time, hence the prosecutions
[08:56.10] <+gadfly> JustBeKalm, and she was very pro nafta
[08:56.18] <+gadfly> when her husband created it
[08:56.28] <bacon> does obamas wife still have a penis
[08:56.30] <+gadfly> in fact she was one of the people out there lobbying for it
[08:56.35] <gannon> that's what they did to Bolsonaro in Brazil
[08:56.36] <+gadfly> but then when she ran for president
[08:56.40] <+dry_> Clinton signed NAFTA into law... but it was in the works long before he took office
[08:56.42] <+gadfly> and nafta was being attacked
[08:56.47] <gannon> just decided he was "ineligible to run for office" for 8 years
[08:56.51] <+gadfly> she said she was always against it
[08:56.55] <gannon> and now this guy in Pakistan
[08:57.02] <+JustBeKalm> gadfly, so was Bill. And if she used a fake accent, which is probably more of an acquired one, how is that making her less the prospect for POTUS than Trump?
[08:57.07] <+gadfly> dry_, but hillary later claimed she was always against it
[08:57.14] <+gadfly> JustBeKalm, its not that she was for nafta
[08:57.14] <bacon> haven't seen her since she swung it around dancing with ellen
[08:57.30] <+gadfly> its later when she lied and said she was always against it
[08:57.31] <+dry_> gadfly: which is nonsense since she also ran on a big asian trade agreement
[08:57.40] <+JustBeKalm> gadafly, did you vote for Trump? Or do you think Democratic men never contradicted?
[08:58.01] <+gadfly> JustBeKalm, I guess you skipped the part immediately after I said I didnt like her
[08:58.04] <+JustBeKalm> Well, my p oint is because of these petty things, we got Trump and he's still around.
[08:58.11] <+gadfly> where I said she was a million times better than trump
[08:58.17] <+JustBeKalm> gadfly, that doesn't mean you voted for Trump.
[08:58.24] <+gadfly> JustBeKalm, see you just want to pigeon hole
[08:58.28] <+gadfly> JustBeKalm, wtf
[08:58.34] <bacon> i'm going to vote for trump again. with trump russia behaved, prices were down, stock market was up.
[08:58.37] <+JustBeKalm> Not liking her personally doesn't mean you think Trump is better. If you did, you're the same as the MAGAs.
[08:58.38] <+gadfly> of course I didnt vote for trunmp
[08:58.42] <+gadfly> wtf you even asking that
[08:58.49] <+gadfly> are you not listening to a thing ive said
[08:58.55] <+JustBeKalm> gadfly, because I don't know who you voted for.
[08:58.57] <+gadfly> I voted for her
[08:59.00] <+JustBeKalm> Okay.
[08:59.01] <gannon> Added *!*gadfly
[08:59.02] <+dry_> bacon: you enjoyed the lock downs?
[08:59.03] <+gadfly> JustBeKalm, whatever
[08:59.05] <+gadfly> I mean wtf
[08:59.17] <gannon> sad kid
[08:59.27] <+JustBeKalm> gadflf, stuff happens in my house so I can't always pay total attention here. Ty for answering again.
[08:59.28] <+gadfly> this is the problem with both parties
[08:59.33] <+gadfly> you cant criticize anything
[08:59.44] <Relics> Conspiracy theories about the Maui fire are coming out in droves
[08:59.45] <+JustBeKalm> But one party never tried to overturn an election.
[08:59.47] <bacon> under biden russia is a menace and threatening nuclear war, prices have skyrocketed, stock market is down
[08:59.57] <+gadfly> JustBeKalm, Im a dem
[09:00.03] <bacon> people like JustBeKalm still don't understand
[09:00.05] <+gadfly> Ive actually worked for them
[09:00.17] <+dry_> lol... because Russia wouldn't have invaded if Trump was in office?
[09:00.20] <+JustBeKalm> gadfly, me too. And I don't like Biden. But, like you did, I will vote for him.
[09:00.23] <+gadfly> and helped on dozens of campaigns including boxer and feinsteins first senate run
[09:00.29] <+dry_> they only built up for this for years...
[09:00.36] <+JustBeKalm> Okay, gadfly. Good on you :)
[09:00.39] <+gadfly> JustBeKalm, so why are you trying to make a misogynist out of me
[09:00.45] <+gadfly> for not liking hillary lyin
[09:00.54] <+JustBeKalm> gadfly, not if you aren't one and you don't seem to be.
[09:01.10] <+gadfly> Hell I worked on bills campaign too
[09:01.13] <Relics> Conspiracy nuts are claiming the Maui fire was started by a directed energy weapon
[09:01.17] <+JustBeKalm> I did too.
[09:01.26] <+JustBeKalm> ANd Obama twice.
[09:01.30] <+gadfly> 92 was a great year
[09:02.02] <bacon> yeah you flap your guns a lot spewing nothing intelligent
[09:02.05] <bacon> gums
[09:02.12] <Relics> Conspiracy nuts are claiming the Maui fire was set by rich people who want the real estate that was burned up
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[09:02.22] <+JustBeKalm> bacon, go back to the pig you came from :P
[09:02.27] <+gadfly> Relics, no jewish space lazers?
[09:02.31] <+gadfly> lasers
[09:02.31] <+JustBeKalm> Oh, he did...lol
[09:02.37] <Relics> gadfly Not yet
[09:02.59] <+gadfly> what gets me is people attacking the fbi for that raid on the guy who threatened to kill biden
[09:03.16] <+gadfly> the guy literally wrote on facebook if the fbi came to his house he was going to shoot them
[09:03.30] <+JustBeKalm> gadfly, well, that has to be MAGAs.
[09:03.33] <+gadfly> yet they try to make it sound like he didnt do anythin and they just executed him
[09:03.37] <+JustBeKalm> He was all but asking "KILL ME."
[09:03.59] <+JustBeKalm> One less MAGA who caused his own death.
[09:04.11] <+gadfly> JustBeKalm, guess he hated biden more than he loved his kid he was taking care of
[09:04.16] <+gadfly> pretty sad
[09:04.22] <+dry_> gadfly: it's bizarre how right wingers fall when it's cops killing minorities versus cops killing right wingers
[09:04.24] <+JustBeKalm> gadfly, guess so.
[09:04.38] <+JustBeKalm> He died for Trump's honor.
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[09:04.41] <+gadfly> dry_, you see the story I posted earlier
[09:05.03] <+gadfly> kansas police raided a newspaper and took everything and the owners home as well
[09:05.12] <Relics> gadfly it is unusual how rapid the authorities release so much about the guy the FBI killed, but have yet to release anything about the transgender guy who did a mass shooting
[09:05.17] <gannon> "We don't know what actually ignited the fires"
[09:05.19] <+gadfly> the stress killed the newspaper owners 98 yr old mother
[09:05.24] <+dry_> unarmed man in handcuffs on the group surrounded by four police - still a threat || armed man saying he'll kill the president and will shoot police that approach --> why were the police so aggressive?
[09:05.40] <gannon> Greta Thunberg fans with Bic lighters, that's who
[09:05.41] <+dry_> gadfly: about the newspaper being raided?
[09:05.50] <+gadfly> ＋https://www.thedailybeast.com/marion-county-record-subjected-to-police-raid-after-unpublished-dui-story-about-restaurateur-kari-newell，
[09:05.51] <@Lard> [url] Marion County Record Subjected to Police Raid After Unpublished DUI Story About Restaurateur Kari Newell | ＋www.thedailybeast.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/22egywpg， )
[09:05.56] <+dry_> yea, fucked up gadfly
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[09:06.16] <gannon> manifesto of the transgender still not released
[09:06.45] <+gadfly> dry_, it turns out that the paper was investigating the police chief had to retire from his last job over sexual harrassment
[09:07.02] <+dry_> gadfly: better and better
[09:07.11] <P-1> gannon cant come here without obsession over gays and transgenders at least once
[09:07.15] <Relics> gadfly sounds like retaliation
[09:07.38] <+gadfly> ＋https://thehandbasket.substack.com/p/a-conversation-with-the-newspaper，
[09:07.38] <@Lard> [url] Just a moment... | thehandbasket.substack.com ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2466tlv9， )
[09:07.50] <Relics> P-1 som gay and lesbian groups are splitting of from LGBTQ.
[09:08.02] <+gadfly> EM: So the backstory that we haven't told, because we don't wanna get in trouble, is that we've been investigating the police chief [Gideon Cody]. When he was named Chief just two months ago, we got an outpouring of calls from his former co-workers making a wide array of allegations against him saying that he was about to be demoted at his previous job and that he retired to avoid demotion and punishment over sexual
[09:08.02] <+gadfly> misconduct charges and other things.
[09:08.34] <+gadfly> dry_, also you are not suppose to be able to do a search warrant raid on a newspaper except in extreme circumstances
[09:08.37] <Relics> gadfly I see that police dept being sued till it no longer exists
[09:08.47] <+gadfly> you have to subpoena them
[09:08.52] <+gadfly> so even the judge is fucked
[09:09.01] <+gadfly> should have never signed that warrant
[09:09.01] <+dry_> hope the town enjoys their taxes going up
[09:09.17] <+dry_> what a shit show
[09:09.25] <+gadfly> Relics, tons of other papers worldwide are in support of them
[09:09.34] <Relics> gadfly I see that.
[09:09.36] <+gadfly> stupid cop trying to cover up stuff
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[09:09.45] <+gadfly> sets off a worldwide stink
[09:09.49] <+dry_> stupid cop, stupid politician
[09:09.55] <+dry_> stupid judge
[09:10.06] <+gadfly> and on top of the totally illegal search
[09:10.11] <gannon> sued for what
[09:10.22] <+gadfly> the raid on their house caused his mother to die
[09:10.25] <Relics> gadfly the cops will claim it was a case of national security.
[09:11.05] <+gadfly> Relics, the search was over the paper finding out a local bar owner was driving around without a license
[09:11.09] <+gadfly> it was suspended for dui
[09:11.38] <Relics> gadfly I know. I used "national" to mock how the feds always use that excuse
[09:11.43] <+gadfly> they claimed they thought the paper found out illegally
[09:12.13] <+gadfly> Relics, the cops put out a reply on facebook they did nothing wrong but wont talk about it
[09:12.24] <+gadfly> check out the replies
[09:12.34] <+dry_> kind of like gannon using ignores :)
[09:12.45] <Relics> gadfly that's what the feds claimed about Julian Assange. That he did the hacking ... so these local cops are going to try that same approach
[09:12.53] <+gadfly> ＋https://www.facebook.com/marionpoliceks，
[09:12.54] <@Lard> [url] Facebook | ＋www.facebook.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/279j55ja， )
[09:13.23] <+dry_> fuck facebook... making me login to read someone's posts
[09:13.49] <+gadfly> the first post is from a reporter telling them how their reply was full of shit
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[09:13.58] <+gadfly> I mean this is first amendment stuff
[09:14.09] <+gadfly> and every reporter around is going jump on it
[09:14.20] <+gadfly> seems the cops thought it would just go all away
[09:14.54] <Relics> gadfly seems many cops have low intelligence
[09:15.32] <+gadfly> Relics, can you believe that cops have rejected candidates for having too high an IQ?
[09:15.38] <+gadfly> and it was upheld in court/
[09:15.45] <Relics> gadfly had not heard that
[09:16.04] <gannon> cops are low IQ but a judge signed the warrant here
[09:16.05] <+gadfly> ＋https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836，
[09:16.05] <@Lard> [url] Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops - ABC News | abcnews.go.com ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/ycxwwgw7， )
[09:16.16] <+gadfly> gannon, the judge is fucked too
[09:16.45] <+gadfly> either the judge is stupid as fuck, or corrupt as hell
[09:16.55] <+gadfly> def isnt going to be a judge anymore
[09:17.28] <+gadfly> you dont just sign any search warrant request on a newspaper
[09:21.21] <+gadfly> ＋https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/12/police-raid-local-kansas-newspaper-office-and-homes-of-reporters，
[09:21.22] <@Lard> [url] Police raid local Kansas newspaper office and homes of reporters | Kansas | The Guardian | ＋www.theguardian.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/22xgnnfr， )
[09:21.28] <+gadfly> already news in the uk
[09:23.59] <gannon> what we need are more diverse police departments
[09:24.01] <gannon> ＋https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/02/two-cops-who-killed-tyre-nichols-had-records.html，
[09:24.02] <@Lard> [url] Two Cops Who Killed Tyre Nichols Had Records | nymag.com ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/26hxw4ey， )
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[09:33.04] <+Harbinger> gadfly: If you're doing nothing illegal, you don't need to worry about getting indicted and raided. Right?
[09:33.40] <+gadfly> Harbinger, the dead mother says otherwise
[09:34.13] <+Harbinger> gadfly: You're telling me that law enforcement, government attorneys, and even judges can be corrupt?
[09:34.44] <+Harbinger> Surely, nobody would indict and raid someone for political or corrupt reasons. The fact they get raided and indicted means they are already a criminal.
[09:34.51] <+Harbinger> Maybe they shouldn't have been doing criminal things!
[09:35.23] <+Harbinger> gadfly: Also, I don't think the dead mother is saying anything at all anymore. =)
[09:35.28] <Smax> ＋https://twitter.com/i/status/1690679169942732802，
[09:35.29] <@Lard> [Twitter] iamyesyouareno (@iamyesyouareno): End stage civilization. ＋https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1690675620030926848/vid/576x1024/wCBjNIAuch9iwaq6.mp4?tag=14， | 280 RTs | 1433 ♥s | Posted: 2023-08-13 - 10:58:20UTC
[09:38.56] <tzip> uh... and Harbinger has resurfaced?
[09:39.50] <tzip> ＋https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fm6jf5ifdphhb1.jpg，
[09:39.51] <@Lard> [url] Reddit - Dive into anything | ＋www.reddit.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/24e6ej98， )
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[09:47.09] <+Debaser> ＋https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainians-advance-10-12-miles-in-tactically-significant-move/，
[09:47.10] <@Lard> [url] Ukrainians advance 16-20 kilometers in 'tactically significant' move | kyivindependent.com ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2d9l4yz8， )
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[09:54.24] <AAAman> A Georgia grand jury will hear evidence this week into whether Donald Trump interfered in the 2020 election in the state.
[09:54.29] <PrezPusyGrab> ITS GETTING JUICY
[09:54.34] <PrezPusyGrab> Georgia prosecutors have messages showing Trump’s team is behind voting system breach.
[09:54.43] <PrezPusyGrab> ＋https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/13/politics/coffee-county-georgia-voting-system-breach-trump，
[09:54.44] <@Lard> [url] Exclusive: Georgia prosecutors have messages showing Trump's team is behind voting system breach | CNN Politics | ＋www.cnn.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2bcnysp6， )
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[09:55.24] <PrezPusyGrab> Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is expected to seek charges against more than a dozen individuals when her team presents its case before a grand jury next week. Several individuals involved in the voting systems breach in Coffee County are among those who may face charges in the sprawling criminal probe. <---- ANY GUESSES WHO?
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[09:59.15] <+gadfly> PrezPusyGrab, I read that earlier
[09:59.42] <PrezPusyGrab> more than a dozen people possibly being charged is crazy, this is going to turn into a giant rico case
[09:59.59] <+gadfly> is rudy too stupid to flip?
[10:00.08] <+gadfly> he is directly involved
[10:02.32] <+Debaser> Be funny is everyone but Trump flips
[10:02.35] <+Debaser> If*
[10:02.50] <Bathsheba`> hm
[10:02.57] <Bathsheba`> Debaser: hi
[10:03.09] <+Debaser> Heya Bathsheba`
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[10:03.17] <+JustBeKalm> Hi, folks. Hey Bathsheba` and others who just came on.
[10:03.33] <Bathsheba`> JustBeKalm: hello
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[10:04.38] <PrezPusyGrab> trump can't flip, they won't offer him any deal to go after his lackeys
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[10:16.10] <wptmj> When pressed, the tailor, a material witness in the suit, came apart at the seams.
[10:16.18] <wptmj> His altered testimony completely unraveled.
[10:16.27] <wptmj> The tale he had woven had been a complete fabrication.
[10:17.31] <wptmj> Proofreading is very impotent.
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[10:36.18] <gloops> z.z
[10:41.08] <gloops> Marx complains of 'boils' throughout his life, in letters, correspondence etc
[10:41.24] <gloops> now actually thought to be quite a serious skin disease
[10:41.55] <gloops> affecting the groin, anus and armpits
[10:42.32] <gloops> he complained that there was no comfortable position to avoid pain and discomfort
[10:42.52] <gloops> which also must have affected his mental health seriously
[10:44.15] <gloops> oddl;y enough Nietzsche also suffered serious health complaints
[10:44.38] <tzip> as did Martin Luther
[10:44.53] <tzip> Maybe you have to be seriously sick to come up with world-changing ideas?
[10:45.10] <gloops> is this poor health a common link to their rather dark thinking
[10:45.20] <gloops> yeah it seems so tzip
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[10:45.51] <gloops> Nietzsche apparently could only write for 20 minutes at a time
[10:46.17] <gloops> he would often spend days unable to do anything, laid on the bed
[10:46.20] <P-1> will Lady G get indicted next week?
[10:47.21] <gloops> Nietzsche had suffered from migraines since he was nine years old. These were recurrent, severe, not preceded by auras, mostly localized to the right side, and often lasted several hours or even days.3 Visual problems began at age twelve, when he complained of tired eyes, and later of diminished vision. Later he was found to be blind in the right
[10:47.21] <gloops> eye, and by 1878 he was almost completely blind. Depressive symptoms with suicidal ideas first appeared in 1882, followed by visual hallucinations (1884).
[10:47.28] <gloops> toss a coin P-1
[10:48.10] <tzip> all that was brought about by trying to spell his name
[10:48.36] <gloops> yes it is rather a tricky one
[10:49.02] <gloops> pronounced ..neet-shi ?
[10:53.31] <gloops> In his 40's, Freud "had numerous psychosomatic disorders as well as exaggerated fears of dying and other phobias" (Corey 2001,
[10:54.42] <gloops> Freud had a tumour behind his palate for many years, well, some speculation that it was a cocaine induced lesion
[10:54.56] <gloops> however, similar health/mental health issues
[10:55.03] <gloops> the 3 masters of suspicion
[10:55.16] <+kmh> ＋https://www.businessinsider.com/tsmc-taiwan-semiconductor-phoenix-arizona-factory-chipmaker-job-qualification-debate-2023-8，
[10:55.17] <@Lard> [url] Feud Over TSMC's Phoenix Chip Factory Heats up Over Worker Qualifications | ＋www.businessinsider.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2648n3cz， )
[10:55.47] <gloops> have we left it too late kmh
[10:56.46] <gloops> Freud smoked cigars for most of his life; even after having his jaw removed due to malignancy, he continued to smoke until his death on September 23, 1939. He smoked an entire box of cigars daily. After contracting cancer of the mouth, he underwent over 30 operations to treat the disease; his death was by a physician-assisted morphine overdose.
[10:57.29] <tzip> Oh, that's an interesting conundrum, kmh. The same problem loomed when fabric manufacturers tried to move here from the far east. The U.S. doesn't have anybody expert enough in that to be ABLE to move here. We used to have those back in the day but after the shift to the east the skill here died.
[10:57.57] <tzip> Doesn't it seem that some smart entrepeneur might set up a school for that kind of thing?
[10:58.41] <+bodegacat> kmh it's funny to see the "pipefitters & welders union" being quoted as opposed to skilled immigrants being used to install cutting edge lithography equipment. it's not like welders & pipefitters are qualified to do that
[10:58.45] <gloops> why do these companies baulk at the idea of training people
[10:59.06] <tzip> Liu said the company planned to get construction back on track by "sending experienced technicians from Taiwan to train the local skilled workers for a short period of time" — these workers would join the undisclosed number of Taiwanese workers already in Arizona.
[10:59.14] <+bodegacat> gloops training people is exactly what TMSC wants to do
[10:59.20] <+bodegacat> it wants to bring in experts to train americans
[10:59.50] <gloops> well we have got used to immigrant labour now to the extent where we just expect to find ready trained people to do anything
[10:59.55] <tzip> gloops, so TSMC is willing to train. The unions aren't willing to let them. The unions are wrong here. They're not taking the long view. Fewer jobs now, more later as the skill can be handed down.
[11:00.07] <+bodegacat> this is why people like gloops think brexit was a great idea. they don't bother to read the details before getting upset about foreign companies trying to make jobs in another country
[11:00.30] <gloops> the colleges and universities have become mere profit making organisations, no function of supplying the skills the nation needs
[11:00.42] <tzip> "They will only be in Arizona for a limited timeframe for this specific project and will not impact the 12,000 workers currently on-site every day nor our US-based hiring,"
[11:00.57] <tzip> gloops, it seems that more trade schools and fewer universities is the answer?
[11:00.57] <gloops> brexit was a good idea in many ways
[11:01.22] <+kmh> gloops, because 40 of neoliberalism have trained employers not to train people, but to feel entitled to having the pefect job candidate to appear magically on his/her own
[11:01.24] <+bodegacat> even nigel farage says "brexit was a failure" heh
[11:01.39] <gloops> a lot of good ideas dont succeed
[11:01.56] <gloops> yes that is the problem kmh
[11:02.05] <+bodegacat> hard to believe it was such a "good idea" when brexit promoters had to blatantly lie to trick people into voting for it
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[11:02.28] <+bodegacat> now these idiots are whining "oh now it's harder to visit the eu!"
[11:02.31] <gloops> both sides lied, both sides always lie in politics
[11:02.52] <gloops> people who wanted to visit the EU probably voted remain
[11:03.00] <+bodegacat> the remain said was telling the truth though. They warned that brexit would make it harder for brits to travel to the eu, to live in the eu, to do business with the EU
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[11:03.23] <gloops> and - brits can visit the EU with no visa for up to 3 months
[11:03.31] <mOrO^> bodegacat, EU is deporting some Brits
[11:03.32] <gloops> nothing changed with that
[11:03.48] <+bodegacat> and the idiot brexit voters are bewildered "wait, you mean i need a visa to live in italy? Brexit was only supposed to keep foreigners out of britain... not keep british out of foreign countries!"
[11:03.57] <gloops> no harder than doing any of those things in any other country bodegacat
[11:04.10] <gloops> no brexit voters are saying that
[11:04.21] <+bodegacat> gloops ya but british people are shocked that they're not treated like "any other country" when the brexit people promised them that nothing would change
[11:04.33] <gloops> nothing has changed re travel
[11:04.38] <+bodegacat> plenty of brexit voters are saying it. they are on news programs being interviewed
[11:05.07] <gloops> oh yeah, the remain activists pretending to be regretful brexit voters
[11:05.08] <+bodegacat> some old fat guy is whining because he can't live in spain full-time any more because he can't afford health insurance and his tourist visas won't let him stay there permanently
[11:05.30] <gloops> so hes a brit complaining he cant live in spain
[11:05.34] <gloops> thats easily solved
[11:05.49] <+bodegacat> not easily solved. he can't afford it and he doesn't have legal status
[11:05.58] <gloops> cancel his british passport
[11:06.08] <+bodegacat> and he's mad at the brexit people for lying to him and i'm laughing because he was an idiot for believing them anyways
[11:06.17] <gloops> np, he wants free british healthcare but to live in spain
[11:06.27] <gloops> cant burn the candle at both ends
[11:06.34] <+bodegacat> ya they promised him he'd keep his EU health care
[11:06.50] <gloops> his arrangements with the EU arent our concern
[11:06.51] <+bodegacat> well you're right, they can't have it both ways, but that's what the brexit people promised.
[11:07.09] <+bodegacat> so now all these expats are pissed off because they were stupid enough to believe brexit was a good diea
[11:07.13] <gloops> well thats just how it is
[11:07.35] <gloops> theyre pissed off because their retirement plants didnt work out as they wanted
[11:07.49] <gloops> i.e leech off UK, spend in Spain
[11:07.52] <+bodegacat> I also saw a video of how a farmer in britain can't get all his crops picked because he can't get any more migrant labour from romania
[11:07.58] <+bodegacat> so now he's groing less food
[11:08.16] <gloops> he could try paying wages brits can survive on
[11:08.39] <gloops> romanians come as virtual slave labour here
[11:08.45] <+bodegacat> apparently he can't, since supermarkets won't buy his produce at the prices it would take
[11:08.59] <Relics> Hungary just prevented Sweden from joing NATO
[11:09.08] <+bodegacat> relics let's nuke them
[11:09.26] <gloops> bodegacat i notice he hasnt sold his farm
[11:09.39] <tzip> gloops, problem is that food stuff doesn't sell at a very high margin of profit. That's true in all farming. Not altogether sure what can be done about it because reducing the amount of food to raise prices would result in consequences even more dire than they are now.
[11:09.43] <Relics> Ukraine has sent troops to join ISIS in Syria
[11:09.47] <+bodegacat> gloops ya and?
[11:10.06] <gloops> bodegacat so hes still making plenty out of the arrangement
[11:10.29] <gloops> crop picking wages do not contribute much to food prices
[11:10.35] <+bodegacat> gloops that doesn't make any sense
[11:10.36] <+chowder-pop> fucking what ＋https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1690787718383775744，
[11:10.37] <@Lard> [Twitter] Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok): Trans activist tells kids on tiktok that he calls his penis a “princess wand” ＋https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1690277811620106240/vid/576x1024/MfMItifeR8VDaeAO.mp4?tag=14， | 19 RTs | 31 ♥s | Posted: 2023-08-13 - 18:09:40UTC
[11:10.47] <gloops> romanias average wage is far below the UK average
[11:10.47] <+bodegacat> "making plenty" you have no clue how much he's making (or losing)
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[11:11.32] <ZShurp> ＋https://apnews.com/article/maui-hawaii-lahaina-deadliest-wildfire-fb2ebf6cd39c149a582b82eed6ac3930， -- they are going to find hundreds dead before this is over.
[11:11.32] <@Lard> [url] Maui wildfires: As death toll reaches 93, authorities say effort to count losses is just starting | AP News | apnews.com ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2b9h3ume， )
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[11:11.37] <+bodegacat> and even if he's "making plenty" it doesn't change the fact that he is now growing and delivering less food than he was before. Which means britain has to import food to make up the difference.
[11:11.47] <+bodegacat> Wow, great idea Brexit, instead of producing food locally now you have to import it.
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[11:12.24] <gloops> Average Wages in Romania increased to 7364 RON/Month (1636.495 USD/Month) in June 2023.
[11:12.33] <mOrO^> Brexit is much like a Buddhist monk setting himself on fire.
[11:13.01] <ZShurp> yay Romania. How are median wages doing?
[11:13.03] <+bodegacat> Instead of importing cheap labour, now they import expensive food. Brilliant!
[11:13.13] <gloops> In April 2023 employees in the United Kingdom were earning a median pay of 2,230 British pounds per month
[11:13.31] <gloops> bodegacat where are these people supposed to live?
[11:13.42] <gloops> go to school, receive health care etc?
[11:13.45] <+bodegacat> gloops which people? farm workers?
[11:13.53] <gloops> romanian fruit pickers
[11:13.55] <+bodegacat> gloops i'd expect the same place they always lived before brexit
[11:14.12] <gloops> they lived in romania
[11:14.13] <+bodegacat> why is that even a question
[11:14.22] <mOrO^> 7 million on NHS waiting list.........doctors and nurses are fleeing
[11:14.36] <gloops> how did these farms operate before romanian fruit pickers?
[11:14.57] <gloops> which have been around for a decade or 2
[11:14.59] <+bodegacat> as in how did they operate decades ago? That's not really relevant.
[11:15.09] <ZShurp> polish fruit pickers?
[11:15.10] <gloops> its totally revelant
[11:15.19] <gloops> the farmers just want cheap labour
[11:15.25] <mOrO^> Brexiters didnt want all those "brown" faces......... now the economy is finished and have MORE brown faces.
[11:15.33] <gloops> the fruit was always icked in the past
[11:15.35] <+bodegacat> not relevant to the point, which is, brexit means britain now has to import more foreign food to replace the domestic food it cannot produce any more
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[11:15.41] <Relics> I want to make a Polish joke about this. <ZShurp> polish fruit pickers?
[11:15.45] <testicle> hi
[11:15.50] <gloops> but now suddenly, fruit cant be picked without 4 million romanians
[11:15.55] <testicle> i'm testicle
[11:16.09] <gloops> bodegacat we are producing more food than ever
[11:16.20] <gloops> this is just propaganda
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[11:16.26] <Relics> testicle how's it hangin?
[11:16.33] <mOrO^> Farrage will soon become a German
[11:16.41] <+bodegacat> gloops ok you're right about that. i guess this farm is a cherry-picked example!
[11:17.00] <+bodegacat> in that case, nevermind, britain's doing pretty good with farm production
[11:17.27] <+bodegacat> oh wait, that increase is in GBP . we don't know if more food is being made... it could just be that the food that's made is more expensive
[11:17.48] <+bodegacat> 30% increase in the value of crops. Is food more or less than 30% inflation in the past 7 years?
[11:18.37] <gloops> less
[11:18.41] <gloops> ＋https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/26136/strawberry-pickers-plight-exposes-modern-slavery-in-spain，
[11:18.42] <@Lard> [url] Strawberry pickers' plight exposes 'modern slavery' in Spain - InfoMigrants | ＋www.infomigrants.net， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2bm8vmko， )
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[11:19.03] <gloops> what you are seeing with these eastern europeans is brutal exploitation of labour
[11:19.18] <gloops> this isnt a race thing or nationalism or anything
[11:19.38] <gloops> it hurts them and and hurts british workers, the only winner are big food suppliers
[11:20.02] <+bodegacat> according to gov't data, the % of native consumed food has definitely not increased. it's remained at almost exactly 60% of all food consumed.
[11:20.06] <gloops> they live in sheds on the farm, like cattle
[11:20.22] <gloops> so nothing changed bodegacat
[11:21.02] <+bodegacat> it's decreased an insigificant amount, and definitely not increased.
[11:21.08] <gloops> weather
[11:21.27] <+bodegacat> and if you're now claiming "we had to brexit because these poor migrant workers were living like cattle!" lol you're a liar
[11:21.42] <+bodegacat> no one voted "yes" to brexit because they were trying to improve working conditions for foreigners
[11:21.49] <gloops> not at all, there were many good reasons not be part of the EU
[11:21.58] <gloops> there were also many good reason to be in the EU
[11:22.01] <+bodegacat> what a hilarious retractive justification
[11:22.17] <+bodegacat> "oh, we knew that brexit would hurt the economy, our agenda all along was to save those poor crop pickers!"
[11:22.32] <gloops> well, the left should certainly have been concerned about the plight of these farm slaves
[11:22.47] <gloops> as i said, many factors involved
[11:23.06] <gloops> but it isnt like - at least the fruit pickers are doing well out of it - they werent
[11:23.14] <gloops> the giant supermarket chains were
[11:23.17] <+bodegacat> ya but you're lying your ass off when you imply that "protecting foreign farm workers" was any kind of factor that brexiteers cared about
[11:23.27] <gloops> yes it was
[11:23.52] <+bodegacat> definitely not
[11:23.58] <gloops> this myth that these happy people came here to make better lives and made a great contribution to society etc
[11:24.03] <+bodegacat> brexit people just wanted to kick out foreigners, not protect them
[11:24.07] <gloops> was just that - a myth
[11:24.26] <Wilderness> the english didnt vote for brexit because they wanted to protect foreign farm workers
[11:24.36] <+bodegacat> jeez gloops you're such a liar
[11:24.48] <gloops> they were being ruthlessly exploited, british workers were undercut and british workers were also paying for health care and education of the immigrants
[11:25.12] <gloops> fact is, your argument just evaporated before your eyes bodegacat
[11:25.21] <OldMole> but the brexiteers werent just right wing, they were also left wing, left labour voters were also pro-brexit, and a lot of tories were anti-brexit
[11:25.37] <gloops> ok, the main reason i voted brexit was not to protect foreign workers
[11:25.44] <Wilderness> brexit was all about the issue of immigrants, it was enoch powells mentality getting voice
[11:25.45] <+bodegacat> gloops no, my argument did not "evaporate" just because you told a riduculously laughable lie
[11:25.45] <OldMole> well no shit gloops
[11:25.47] <+kmh> bodegacat, arer his pants on fire?
[11:25.54] <+bodegacat> hilarious
[11:25.58] <gloops> jeremey corbyn was anti-EU all his life!
[11:26.09] <OldMole> bottom line though, Brexit was an economic disaster that is still playing out
[11:26.14] <OldMole> it was a very stupid thing to do
[11:26.23] <gloops> and the main anti-brexit lobby was the other half of the tory party
[11:26.42] <gloops> there is no economic disaster in the UK lol
[11:26.50] <+kmh> corbyn had mixed feelings towards the EU, but he wasn't a Brexit supporter iirc
[11:26.56] <OldMole> gloops the economic data does not bare that out
[11:26.57] <+bodegacat> the whole brexit story was "we will kick out foreigners while we still get to live & work in the EU like nothing changed"
[11:27.01] <+kmh> and labour certainly wasn't
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[11:27.07] <gloops> im here, virtually nothing has changed economically that was caused by brexit
[11:27.17] <Wilderness> oh bullshit
[11:27.18] <OldMole> "I'm fine so nothing changed"
[11:27.21] <gloops> the whole brexit story i very complicated
[11:27.46] <+bodegacat> "we will stop obeying EU trade laws and still export our products to EU like nothing changed"
[11:27.47] <gloops> but consider things like - why is our energy policy dictated by germany who appeases Putin for cheap gas
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[11:27.59] <+kmh> OldMole, spoken like a true gopster
[11:28.10] <+kmh> OldMole, or Tory i suppose
[11:28.24] <OldMole> i doubt gloops is a tory, he sounds like UKIP if anything
[11:28.29] <gloops> brexit was overrun by world events, covid, ukraine
[11:28.35] <+bodegacat> gloops ya things get "complicated" when brexit promoters tell bald-faced lies and then eventually the results make it impossible to pretend they were not lies
[11:28.57] <mOrO^> 99.33 Rubles to buy a Dollar
[11:29.02] <gloops> you have to make a case
[11:29.10] <+kmh> OldMole, or BNP?
[11:29.12] <gloops> brexit was 'sold'
[11:29.18] <gloops> remain was 'sold'
[11:29.25] <+Timur> gordl
[11:29.28] <OldMole> mOrO^ id rather have the Dollar
[11:29.35] <+bodegacat> Even though customs chaos, export blocks, and economic contraction were happening long before covid... "oh, it's covid's fault!" "oh it's ukraine's fault!"
[11:29.37] <mOrO^> hehe
[11:29.40] <+bodegacat> Ukraine isn't even in the EU
[11:29.44] <OldMole> yet
[11:29.49] <OldMole> but it will be
[11:29.51] <+bodegacat> but somehow it's responsible for Britain's bad economy, uh huh
[11:29.57] <gloops> no but theres a war in ukraine that caused global inflation
[11:30.17] <gloops> food prices are up because of ukraine war
[11:30.18] <OldMole> gloops why is the UK economy doing comparatively worse than all the other major European economies then
[11:30.42] <gloops> OldMole the UK is on par with germany
[11:30.49] <gloops> economy wise
[11:30.58] <ZShurp> Because britain has deindustrialized more than other european economies
[11:31.08] <ZShurp> pretending it could live on "services" (ie: global finance) instead
[11:31.09] <+bodegacat> Brexit was supposed to "reduce the cost of food & wine" by 20% but apparently it's actually gone up 30%
[11:31.16] <gloops> there is no stark difference between the UK performance and that of most EU nations
[11:31.29] <OldMole> Brexit is at least in part responsible for the particularly poor performance since 2016, with investment perhaps 10% lower than it would otherwise have been. That in turn might translate to reduction in productivity, and hence output, of a little over 1% of GDP
[11:31.37] <gloops> yes but theres been a fucking pandemic and now a war bodegacat
[11:31.41] <OldMole> ＋https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/impact-brexit-uk-economy-reviewing-evidence，
[11:31.42] <@Lard> [url] The impact of Brexit on the UK economy: Reviewing the evidence | CEPR | cepr.org ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2aj2eae5， )
[11:32.08] <gloops> you can find links on brexit showing any kind of outcome you want
[11:32.19] <OldMole> ...
[11:32.27] <+bodegacat> Britain is going to have the biggest GDP shrink in europe in 2023. Only 4 countries have a shrinking gdp (UK, germany, sweden, latvia) ... the other 24 have growing economies. "But it's COVID!!!"
[11:32.34] <+bodegacat> lol
[11:32.38] <OldMole> gloops can I invent my own GDP figures too?
[11:33.02] <+bodegacat> apparently covid is racist against Britain and makes its economy shrink more than everyone else. The Brexit part has nothing to do with it!
[11:33.07] <gloops> bodegacat, you are adamant brexiteers had no compassion for foreign workers, what puzzles me is - why dont you?
[11:33.18] <ZShurp> Britain GDP per capita 2007 / 2021: $50,434 -> 46,510 Germany: $41,640 -> 51,203
[11:33.42] <gloops> you are talking fractions of 1% difference in growth
[11:33.42] <+bodegacat> Gloops you're telling more lies in claiming i "have no compassion for foreign workers"
[11:34.01] <gloops> bodegacat ahh, so you are anti-EU immigration laws then?
[11:34.18] <+bodegacat> gloops so rather than speak to the facts (i.e., britain's economy is suffering) ... you try to retractively make up this lie that you supported brexit because of "compassion for foreign workers"
[11:34.40] <+bodegacat> gloops i've not expessed any opinion regarding EU immigration laws.
[11:34.46] <gloops> bodegacat do you support the suffering of eastern european fruit pickers in Spain?
[11:34.59] <OldMole> oh jesus christ
[11:35.01] <OldMole> what an asshole
[11:35.22] <gloops> oh, so youre happy to slate brexiteers on the matter
[11:35.24] <+bodegacat> gloops you're just throwing up a smokescreen to distract from the fact that damage from Brexit was visible miles away, totally obvious what would happen, and when it DID happen, people like you are desperate to make excuses "oh we wanted to protect foreign workers!" "oh it was covid affected us but no one else!"
[11:35.27] <Wilderness> gloops are you ukip?
[11:35.44] <OldMole> "I support Trumps wall because Im concerned about the poor agricultural work conditions migrant labor workers are subject to" -no one ever
[11:35.44] <+bodegacat> gloops i don't support the suffering of anyone anywhere.
[11:35.46] <gloops> im asking if you want to protect foreign workers
[11:36.06] <gloops> so you would oppose the exploitation of labour by UK farmers?
[11:36.13] <+bodegacat> gloops but i oppose you telling the obvious, laughable lie, that you wanted to brexit because YOU had compassion for foreign workers.
[11:36.16] <ZShurp> lol oldmole :)
[11:36.22] <+bodegacat> we know you don't give a hoot about foreign workers
[11:36.33] <gloops> neither do you it seems
[11:36.43] <gloops> youre a corporation man
[11:36.45] <Wilderness> gloops do you vote ukip?
[11:36.59] <gloops> Wilderness ukip doesnt exist anymore does it?
[11:37.01] <+bodegacat> no, i haven't expressed an opinion either way about foreign workers.
[11:37.08] <OldMole> gloops If you are concerned about labor conditions in the EU for migrant workers, wouldnt the logical step have been to stay in the EU where you had a leading voice and voting power?
[11:37.23] <+bodegacat> i've expressed disdain for morons like you who think Brexit actually helped british people.
[11:37.26] <Wilderness> gloops it still exists
[11:37.35] <gloops> OldMole we obviously had no sway over immigration laws when we were in the EU
[11:37.48] <gloops> ukip isnt on any ballot papers now
[11:37.57] <Wilderness> gloops you didnt answer my question though, its a simple yes/no answer
[11:38.13] <gloops> Wilderness im not a member of ukip
[11:38.21] <OldMole> gloops how is it you think EU immigration laws were developed?
[11:38.32] <gloops> the latest manifestation of the party is 'Reform UK' which i havent voted for
[11:38.47] <+bodegacat> gloops another lie. ETIAS was implemented in large part because Britain insisted that greater controls be put on foreign visitors to Europe
[11:38.52] <gloops> OldMole well this is the thing isnt it
[11:39.14] <gloops> it didnt make any difference
[11:39.18] <+bodegacat> Now that Britain foolishly left EU, and is subject to exactly the requirements they insisted that foreign-visitors-to-europe endure, a lot of Brits are upset
[11:39.37] <gloops> and we the people do not have much say in what our govmt pushes for in the EU
[11:39.43] <+bodegacat> "oh wait, you mean you want us to be subject to exactly the same restrictions as we insisted the rest of the world be subject to? How daaaare you!"
[11:39.56] <gloops> a lot of brots voted to remain
[11:39.59] <+bodegacat> it's amazing!
[11:40.00] <gloops> brits
[11:40.06] <OldMole> gloops then having that same government being completely independent of oversight sounds like an even worse idea
[11:40.18] <OldMole> every thing you say makes Brexit just sound like a worse idea
[11:40.36] <gloops> OldMole not really, our vote is greatly diluted in the EU
[11:40.36] <+bodegacat> I watched an interview with one of these women living in Spain "oh, Europe won't take away our free health care, we're too important to their economy!" hahahah idiots.
[11:40.52] <gloops> and look what happened, - labour govmt incoming
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[11:40.56] <OldMole> gloops youve gone from a "diluted vote" to. NO vote
[11:41.01] <OldMole> how is that an upgrade?
[11:41.04] <+bodegacat> "We're sick of paying for the health care of foreigners. But europe will totally keep paying for OUR health care!"
[11:41.12] <gloops> who gives a fuck about freeloaders living in spain?
[11:41.28] <OldMole> presumably the freeloaders
[11:41.38] <+bodegacat> ya exactly. the BRITISH freeloaders who voted to brexit
[11:41.41] <+bodegacat> because they're morons
[11:41.43] <gloops> well fair enough, i hope they find plenty of sympathy
[11:41.43] <OldMole> specifically the british ex-pats fucked by Brexit
[11:41.53] <+bodegacat> 300,000 brits live (or lived) in spain.
[11:42.18] <+bodegacat> sucks for the expats who knew brexit would ream them up the ass. But the idiots who voted to brexit are getting what they deserve.
[11:42.28] <gloops> but came 'home' for health care, dental treatment etc
[11:42.38] <gloops> legal aid, anything free
[11:42.41] <OldMole> but gloops is just as he was before, living on the dole and spreading horseshit on IRC
[11:42.49] <OldMole> so Brexit is dandy
[11:43.02] <gloops> im disappointed brexit didnt get a chance
[11:43.04] <+bodegacat> gloops is complaining about the price of gas though
[11:43.08] <+bodegacat> so not all is dandy
[11:43.11] <OldMole> gloops didnt get a chance?!?!?!?
[11:43.13] <gloops> its a none thing now, dont give a shit about it
[11:43.15] <+bodegacat> but the problem is covid you see.
[11:43.22] <+bodegacat> and ukraine
[11:43.25] <gloops> we will rejoin soon enough i have no doubt
[11:43.35] <OldMole> you dont?
[11:43.42] <gloops> nope
[11:43.52] <gloops> i wont vote on the issue again
[11:43.52] <OldMole> like you had no doubt Kyiv would fall in 3 weeks, and that Zelensky was hiding in Poland, right?
[11:43.57] <+bodegacat> and everythign would have worked out 100% perfect with brexit if covid wasn't still destroying the economy of britain even while the economy of 24 other european nations are growing
[11:44.18] <gloops> we dont know how brexit would have worked out, never will
[11:44.30] <+bodegacat> hahaha wat
[11:44.35] <OldMole> right, its not fair the real world interfered with the rosy prognostications of Brexit
[11:44.39] <gloops> forgive us for daring to dream of a better way
[11:44.46] <OldMole> Brexit didnt get a real chance
[11:44.46] <+bodegacat> "we will never know how brexit worked out" uhh dude you're seeing how brexit worked out, in real time.
[11:44.58] <gloops> you just keep backing the corps, conforming and complying youll be fine
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[11:45.34] <OldMole> gloops you think stripping EU protections for labor and ecology was anti-corporate?
[11:46.01] <gloops> OldMole for one thing we invented parliament
[11:46.05] <+bodegacat> brexit people thought they'd get all the special priveliges of being in EU with none of the responsibilities because "Britain is too important" ... and then they learned the harsh reality that EU can, in fact, survive without britain
[11:46.11] <gloops> we invented labour protections
[11:46.17] <gloops> we invented the ECHR
[11:46.28] <OldMole> you...invented...labour protections?
[11:46.30] <OldMole> you sure?
[11:46.39] <+bodegacat> and greece invented democracy. And africa invented humans. so what
[11:46.40] <gloops> we are quite capable of creating the laws we want
[11:46.43] <gloops> yes we did
[11:47.13] <PrezPusyGrab> wait is gloops advocating the failed brexit idea?
[11:47.22] <+bodegacat> apparently in some short # of years, poland will grow to be a bigger economy than britain
[11:47.30] <+chowder-pop> most brits just wanted to stop paying into countries like greece and stopping huge influxes of immigrants, but they didnt end up getting either one of those things
[11:47.34] <gloops> to claim that probably the most internationally experienced nation on earth is incapable of making laws is ridicukous
[11:47.35] <PrezPusyGrab> Thats the problem with these idiots, whenever they're proven to be wrong they just make up some weird rationalization than say "Oops we were wrong"
[11:47.38] <+bodegacat> PrezPusyGrab yes he still thinks it was a great idea.
[11:48.02] <PrezPusyGrab> gloops: try this "Oops, we were wrong, brexit was a bad idea". It shows maturity.
[11:48.14] <+bodegacat> PrezPusyGrab and as usual, i'm insulting him and laughing at him because i watched some videos about whiny brexit voters crying because they didn't believe it would negatively impact THEIR lives.
[11:48.26] <gloops> the home of magna carta - needs germany - the home of adolf hitler - to protect its workers
[11:48.44] <PrezPusyGrab> bodegacat: its like those dumb bitches in florida that voted for Ron Desantis and crying now that he took away their permanent alimony
[11:48.57] <Wilderness> gloops everything comes back to Germany with you, why is that?
[11:49.04] <P-1> if the conservatives ever took full power in the uk, it would revert back to a Charles Dickens coal smoke hellscape
[11:49.06] <gloops> PrezPusyGrab no, i dont think brexit was a bad idea, if i was back at the voting booth now id vote leave again
[11:49.17] <gloops> however, as said, i wont bother with the issue again
[11:49.24] <+bodegacat> Now gloops is saying that the whole point of brexit was: they're going to protect the migrant farm workers, because they were treated inhumanely while picking crops on British farms. So clearly the only way to handle this was to leave the EU.
[11:49.52] <PrezPusyGrab> gloops: right, but you were proven wrong
[11:49.55] <gloops> the whole point of brexit was to take back control of our own govmt and economy
[11:49.59] <+bodegacat> Apparently this was the TIP-TOP priority of Brexit.... and everyone just forgot to mention it for the entire of year of debates preceding Brexit.
[11:50.02] <OldMole> [14:39:29] gloops: and we the people do not have much say in what our govmt pushes for in the EU. also, [14:46:32] gloops: we are quite capable of creating the laws we want
[11:50.05] <PrezPusyGrab> gloops: yes, but the results proved it failed
[11:50.16] <gloops> we werent proven wrong, brexit was a non starter due to world events
[11:50.29] <PrezPusyGrab> it was a nonstarter because Britain depends on so much of the EU
[11:50.32] <PrezPusyGrab> which is why you were wrong
[11:50.48] <OldMole> gloops so youre saying...Brexit would have worked, if not for it happening in the real world, where shit happens
[11:50.54] <PrezPusyGrab> and too stupid to listen to everyone warning you
[11:50.59] <gloops> we did depend on the EU because we had focused exclusively on EU trade
[11:51.07] <+bodegacat> Well if you change the goalposts so that the MAIN PURPOSE of brexit was to make sure that foreign farm workers do not endure hardship on British farms.... then brexit worked GREAT!!! so now only *british* people endure hardship working on british farms! Wow big improvements!
[11:51.29] <gloops> we dont want to be stuck in a little european bankers club, we want to be where we belong - out in the WORLD
[11:51.37] <PrezPusyGrab> I wouldn't buy shit from a British farm anyways, they're notorious for having horrible food
[11:51.46] <gloops> we have a commonwealth which is the fastest growing trade bloc on earth
[11:51.49] <PrezPusyGrab> that rots their teeth
[11:52.17] <PrezPusyGrab> maybe the immigrants would have saved your people from eating shitty bangers and mash all day
[11:52.21] <+bodegacat> when you're on the dole, you don't have much choice in buying only foreign-grown veggies
[11:52.39] <gloops> unemployment is at record highs here
[11:52.50] <gloops> err, employment is at record highs lol
[11:53.27] <Wilderness> gloops thats all around the world, employment levels are goo in most countries
[11:53.28] <gloops> Main points. The UK employment rate was estimated at 76.0% in February to April 2023, 0.2 percentage points higher than November 2022 to January 2023. The number of people in employment increased to a record high in the latest quarter with increases in both the number of employees and self-employed workers.13 Jun 2023
[11:53.30] <PrezPusyGrab> unemployment is only a valid statistic when compared to wages and quality of life
[11:53.41] <PrezPusyGrab> if everyone has to work 2-3 jobs to live its a shitty fucking statistic
[11:53.42] <+bodegacat> wait, i thought covid destroyed your economy? or ukraine destroyed it? or covid-ravaged ukraine?
[11:53.47] <gloops> Wildneress not in china
[11:53.50] <+Debaser> OldMole: same way that Ukraine would have fallen in 3 days
[11:54.00] <+Debaser> if not for pesky reality intervening
[11:54.05] <+bodegacat> So now the economy is actually GOOD in britain? wow fantastic news.
[11:54.07] <Wilderness> gloops I said most of the world.
[11:54.28] <+bodegacat> I guess that shrinking GDP is a misleading indicator of Britain's economic health
[11:54.30] <gloops> the british economy is fine
[11:54.37] <gloops> we arent in recession
[11:54.41] <+bodegacat> and therefore, covid didn't actually hurt you?
[11:54.46] <PrezPusyGrab> gloops: So, if I was consistently wrong about literally everything, I would have the foresight to say "hey, maybe I'm a dumbass who should just listen to others rather than form my own opinions"
[11:54.47] <+bodegacat> boy, your story sure changes fast
[11:55.12] <gloops> covid did hurt us, we would be doing better now if not for covid
[11:55.28] <+bodegacat> better than what?
[11:55.36] <gloops> than we are now
[11:55.47] <+bodegacat> better than the 27 european countries which have stronger economic growth than britain?
[11:55.49] <PrezPusyGrab> gloops: since you're consistently wrong all the time, maybe you should just listen to others?
[11:55.51] <ZShurp> yeah, covid didn't hurt germany
[11:56.06] <PrezPusyGrab> your brain obviously isn't working properly
[11:56.12] <gloops> Net migration rose to 606,000 in the year to December 2022, official statistics show. The figure is the highest on record for a calendar year.
[11:56.13] <+bodegacat> let's list all the european countries which are growing economies SLOWER that britain in 2023. ... .... hmmm, can't find any!
[11:56.20] <gloops> record immigration
[11:56.32] <+bodegacat> ya, wasn't brexit supposed to STOP immigration?
[11:56.40] <gloops> so, if the UK is doing so bad, how come so many people want to come here?
[11:56.40] <+bodegacat> kinda ... failed to fulfill its purpose
[11:56.49] <gloops> why arent they going to germany or france?
[11:57.24] <PrezPusyGrab> gloops: because Germany and France already have good food, and in Britain immigrants can make a killing selling you cuisine that doesn't suck?
[11:57.25] <+bodegacat> well that's a godo question
[11:57.39] <PrezPusyGrab> why go to a saturated market?
[11:58.01] <gloops> the thing with americans, especially democrats, theyre being sold a lie about brexit
[11:58.07] <PrezPusyGrab> think about all the immigrants with dental degrees
[11:58.12] <gloops> because the US admin dreams of world govmt
[11:58.14] <PrezPusyGrab> where do you think they would want to go start a business?
[11:58.21] <gloops> and brexit kinda fucked that up
[11:58.37] <gloops> it supports the independence side
[11:58.47] <+bodegacat> a random google says that Germany had a net immigration of 1.4m people in 2022. So 2x as much as britain. So tell us again how Britain is a more popular destination for immigrants than other european nations?
[11:58.49] <PrezPusyGrab> so conspiracy theories about globalism
[11:58.52] <PrezPusyGrab> is your answer
[11:59.07] <+bodegacat> by, it's almost as if.... the facts do not support gloops claims. wow.
[11:59.10] <+bodegacat> unbelievable.
[11:59.16] <gloops> bodegacat for one thing Germany has no immigration restrictions
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[11:59.34] <gloops> and they took a lot of ukrainians
[11:59.57] <+kmh> today's random musical quote "facts are the enemy of truth"
[12:00.07] <PrezPusyGrab> Germany has no immigration restrictions? You're so full of shit.
[12:00.26] <gloops> Germany will take lieterally anyone
[12:00.31] <P-1> gloops: so wales, scotland, and NI should spin off away from england so that can be independent?
[12:00.51] <PrezPusyGrab> you are absolutely full of shit, Germany has a fuckton of requirements to get a permanent residency visa
[12:00.56] <gloops> P-1 thats a different story
[12:01.03] <P-1> gloops: it is?
[12:01.13] <+bodegacat> black mirror this season had an episode about racists in britain in 1979
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[12:01.25] <gloops> scotland and wales unfortunately have no means of being independent
[12:01.59] <+bodegacat> stupid scotland occasionally has independence referendums
[12:02.16] <+bodegacat> if one ever passed, they country might create means for independence
[12:02.19] <PrezPusyGrab> For refugees to get permanent residency in Germany You must have had a residence permit for at least 3 (or 5) years, the duration of your asylum procedure included. You must be able to speak German at the A2 level and provide proof of your language proficiency.
[12:02.32] <gloops> yes the independence leaders were recently arrested on fraud allegations
[12:02.37] <PrezPusyGrab> literally takes 5 years
[12:02.54] <P-1> whats to stop scotland from breaking away from the uk and joining the eu?
[12:02.58] <PrezPusyGrab> You may receive only some or no benefits from the jobcenter or social welfare office; which means you have to be able to cover most of your expenses with your wages. The permissible percentage of welfare support you can receive from the jobcenter or social welfare office varies from one federal state to the other, but In principle, it is at least 50% to 75%. For more information, seek advice from the staff at the Immigration Office or a counsel
[12:02.59] <PrezPusyGrab> ling centre.
[12:03.13] <gloops> P-1 they have no economy basically
[12:03.19] <PrezPusyGrab> so refugees have to prove they can speak the language and support themselves through a job
[12:03.29] <+bodegacat> P-1 there's no mechanism in law for scotland to secede. So they would have to negotiate with the rest of UK
[12:03.32] <OldMole> P-1 how about Northern Ireland just joining the republic and automagically being EU
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[12:03.47] <PrezPusyGrab> Must have health insurance, must not have a criminal record, and be an individual entitled to asylum protection
[12:03.56] <PrezPusyGrab> acting like they just have open gates for anyone is such a lie
[12:04.00] <OldMole> one of the biggest arguments againt scottish independence was scotland wouldnt be able to Join the EU, because of the UK, but now thats not an obstacle
[12:04.02] <+bodegacat> p-1 as i recall from the last scottish independence referendum, if the referendum was approved, the rest of the UK agreed "ok, we'll talk about it"
[12:04.05] <P-1> OldMole true
[12:04.13] <gloops> Northern Ireland is on course for re-unification i think
[12:04.48] <OldMole> gloops youll have to change the Union Jack
[12:05.02] <+bodegacat> i thought the scots were idiots for talking about independence, but now that the rest of the UK have proven to be a bunch of boneheads, it makes a lot of sense for them to do it
[12:05.16] <gloops> a labour govmt probably will drop the union jack one day
[12:05.20] <+bodegacat> if scotland can secede, it can then join the EU and be part of a sane family
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[12:05.39] <gloops> like greece and romania
[12:05.43] <PrezPusyGrab> bodegacat: has being a part of the UK ever really been good for Scotland?
[12:06.24] <P-1> Brexit was the result of russian troll campaigns designed to make everyone feel angry over refugees and immigrants....the extreme right used this anger to leverage political power
[12:06.44] <P-1> people in the UK were dooped by a bunch of nazis
[12:07.13] <PrezPusyGrab> I don't understand why Putin even invaded the Ukraine when he could have just had his troll farm promote more hunter biden conspiracies and gotten the US to invade them
[12:07.27] <+bodegacat> PrezPusyGrab i think so, scotland basically is a welfare state.
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[12:07.58] <PrezPusyGrab> bodegacat: and how much of that is because of English oppression? I don't know much about their particular situation but England basically starved half of Ireland to death.
[12:08.06] <gloops> half of scotland is on the dole
[12:09.27] <gloops> what most naive EU supporters arent factoring in - the EU will cease to exist within 20 years
[12:09.33] <gloops> in its current form anyway
[12:09.47] <+bodegacat> PrezPusyGrab i don't think modern scotland is particularly "oppressed". Not that i've talked to many scots about it, but i'm not going to put much weight in Braveheart style dramatizations from centuries ago
[12:10.07] <P-1> the eu lost its way
[12:10.18] <+bodegacat> If scots want to be independent because 200 years ago some king fought with another king about who gets to own which serfs, i think they're idiots.
[12:10.25] <PrezPusyGrab> bodegacat: acting like history can't affect the present is pretty naive
[12:10.43] <PrezPusyGrab> England has been particularly brutal to the rest of the island
[12:10.44] <gloops> a lot of scotland, the highlands, the places are total shitholes
[12:10.47] <+bodegacat> i'm not saying history doesn't lead to the present.
[12:10.49] <PrezPusyGrab> (and much of the world)
[12:10.53] <gloops> nice scenery but thats about all
[12:10.55] <+bodegacat> i'm saying in the present, i don't believe scotland is "oppressed"
[12:11.15] <PrezPusyGrab> Im just asking how much of the current economic situations you're describing are due to past English oppression.
[12:11.32] <gloops> scotland receives a lot more tax revenue per head than england, and has much worse outcomes
[12:11.34] <+bodegacat> i wouldn't even venture to guess. You can't change the past so it is what it is.
[12:11.34] <PrezPusyGrab> Its like how we don't have slaves in the US anymore, but black people are still pretty worse off because of the past.
[12:11.35] <gloops> nothing there
[12:11.47] <P-1> bodegacat: i was just using a hypothetical to compare to the reasons for brexit
[12:12.42] <+bodegacat> PrezPusyGrab then you think all the blacks because should be sent back to africa because it was unfair to steal and enslave their ancestors?? of course not.
[12:13.06] <+bodegacat> just like it would be dumb for Scotland to leave the UK out of spite *IF* it's better off staying in the UK today.
[12:13.16] <PrezPusyGrab> bodegacat: thats kind of a weird comparison. It would be more like not having to live under confederate rule anymore.
[12:13.27] <PrezPusyGrab> just because the confederates were "nicer now"
[12:13.54] <+bodegacat> Scotland doesn't live under confederate rule. it has not only equal say over all of the UK, but special status for self-governance.
[12:13.57] <gloops> that race thing doesnt underpin every issue here
[12:14.16] <gloops> we have an indian PM lol, the majority in london is non white
[12:14.19] <+bodegacat> PrezPusyGrab if you think scotland is "oppressed" today, well i don't see it but maybe you're right.
[12:14.58] <PrezPusyGrab> bodegacat: I'm just saying overall England doesn't seem to have been much good for most of the places its ruled over.
[12:15.23] <PrezPusyGrab> in fact, its basically just looted and left devastated a lot of the areas
[12:15.40] <gloops> canada, australia, usa?
[12:15.53] <+bodegacat> apparently the scots have a non-zero level of discontent because they voted 45% to secede. Personally i suspect it's because scots are just as stupid as the british, and we saw the british voted to brexit despite it being a terrible idea which the common person had no clue about but liked the sound of it
[12:16.12] <PrezPusyGrab> gloops: kinda hard to count the USA on that list when the americans were so pissed about how they were treated they rose up in revolt
[12:16.24] <gloops> india
[12:16.44] <PrezPusyGrab> gloops: but I was talking about Ireland, India, Bangalore
[12:16.47] <+bodegacat> If scotland had seceded in 2015 i would have expected a majority of them would have promptly realized "oh, this secession idea was actually a bad idea" just like the majority of british now realize brexit was a bad idea
[12:17.27] <gloops> the majority here dont think about brexit
[12:18.00] <PrezPusyGrab> gloops: also, if you want to count australia, Canada, and the US, that didn't work out very well for the people that were living there before england came, now did it?
[12:18.08] <+bodegacat> well, i'd argue that the majority of british don't think, period. But despite that, polling shows pretty clearly that the majority brits now would vote to remain in the EU
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[12:18.43] <gloops> PrezPusyGrab no it didnt, but it was inevitable that imperialists were going to exploit other nations in the course of history
[12:18.59] <gloops> bodegacat you voted for Trump
[12:19.15] <+bodegacat> gloops no i didn't. once again you tell a hilarious lie.
[12:19.25] <+bodegacat> i think you're a compulsive liar.
[12:19.33] <+bodegacat> like you don't do it for fun. you just do it because you can't help yourself.
[12:20.45] <gloops> your nation voted for Trump
[12:20.53] <gloops> and looks like it might well again
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[12:21.23] <+bodegacat> 1. i'm not american 2. never has the majority of american voters voted for Trump potus
[12:21.42] <+bodegacat> 3. yes, USA might elect trump again because americans are idiots
[12:21.49] <PrezPusyGrab> gloops: but it doesn't change the fact that most of the time English rule has ended up extremely bad for everyone else but England.
[12:22.12] <gloops> PrezPusyGrab 200 years ago, times have changed
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[12:22.26] <PrezPusyGrab> gloops: last I checked the troubles in Ireland weren't 200 years ago.
[12:22.31] <gloops> Scotland does very well out of the UK< far better than it would anywhere else
[12:22.56] <PrezPusyGrab> gloops: England left India in 1947
[12:23.09] <PrezPusyGrab> these weren't 200 years ago, barely 100
[12:23.09] <+bodegacat> Scotland might decide it will do better as a member of the EU than as a member of the UK
[12:23.15] <gloops> PrezPusyGrab in recent times Northern Ireland has voted to remain in the union
[12:23.32] <+bodegacat> northern ireland might change its mind also
[12:23.49] <gloops> northern ireland probably will, scotland wont
[12:23.50] <+bodegacat> if anything can get those regions to change their minds, it would be "brexit has failed"
[12:24.09] <PrezPusyGrab> Joint research by Belfast's two main universities finds plurality of Northern Ireland residents think they'll be out of the UK within next 2 decades.
[12:24.22] <+bodegacat> (to quote a top brexit promoter)
[12:24.49] <PrezPusyGrab> not to mention most of the people who want to remain a part of the union was because of being protestant, not due to England's political policies
[12:25.00] <gloops> northern ireland was already going that way - and is no loss to england
[12:25.31] <gloops> yes Cromwells genius
[12:25.41] <PrezPusyGrab> Overall, English rule has not been good for anyone except England. You even admit that most of Scotland is on welfare now. So apparently English rule hasn't done well for them.
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[12:26.00] <gloops> how do you guarantee loyalty to england - ship a load of protestant settlers in
[12:26.06] <kritklmas> .voiceall
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[12:26.20] <+PrezPusyGrab> right, so you admit you imported loyalists against the will of the locals?
[12:26.36] <+PrezPusyGrab> and then use that as justification for English rule?
[12:26.40] <+gloops> PrezPusyGrab theres nothing in scotland, glasgow gets all our shipbuilding now, other parts had oil
[12:26.52] <+PrezPusyGrab> and why isnt there anything in Scotland?
[12:27.04] <+gloops> PrezPusyGrab we dont use that for justification now, but the situation is what it is
[12:27.14] <+gloops> we cant ignore the vote
[12:27.29] <+PrezPusyGrab> but how does that negate the argument that english rule has sucked for the locals?
[12:27.49] <+gloops> we look after northern now of course
[12:28.08] <+gloops> northern ireland, this isnt the UK adminstration of 200 years ago
[12:28.33] <+gloops> there have been endless talks, this is a shitty situation and theres no straightforward solution
[12:30.38] <+gloops> theres nothing in large parts of scotland because the landscape isnt suited to development
[12:31.03] <+Remco> cycling world champion ship was just held in Glasgow ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_c2ZX4S47s，
[12:31.04] <@Lard> [YouTube] FULL RACE: 2023 UCI Road World Championships Elite Men | 7h 58m 31s | FloBikes | 76,227 views
[12:31.12] <+HopesNotHere> FUCK the Limeys
[12:32.35] <+gloops> z.z
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[12:33.15] <+Remco> bicycle races have great scenery
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[12:36.03] <+HopesNotHere> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNx2dSnI7SY， Grey Pilgrim, Lets Go Brandon... Herrera
[12:36.04] <@Lard> [YouTube] Lets Go Brandon... Herrera | 2m 59s | Grey Pilgrim | 100 views
[12:36.07] <@kritklmas> that's why I watch Le Tour
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[12:36.55] <gannon> hey super sizers
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[12:37.07] <+HopesNotHere> ...More like "Le Whore". Orobably the only way
[12:37.16] <+PrezPusyGrab> HopesNotHere: how is your weekend going?
[12:37.17] <+HopesNotHere> he can see his mom.
[12:37.20] <+RatBytes> ＋https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ted-cruz-hunter-biden-special-counsel-inappropriate-1234806154/，
[12:37.21] <@Lard> [url] Ted Cruz Flip Flops on Hunter Biden Special Counsel – Rolling Stone | ＋www.rollingstone.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2bks9yra， )
[12:37.34] <+gannon> Added *!*webchat
[12:37.39] <+HopesNotHere> ..Rolling STONERS??
[12:37.39] <+HopesNotHere> F
[12:37.51] <+HopesNotHere> ucking HIPPIE DOPER RAG
[12:37.53] <+gannon> good one bro
[12:38.11] <+RatBytes> Last September, Sen. Ted Cruz along with several other Republicans authored a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland requesting that U.S. Attorney David Weiss be given “special counsel protections and authorities to conduct the Hunter Biden investigation.” But now that Garland has appointed Weiss as special counsel in the investigation,
[12:38.12] <+RatBytes> Cruz is claiming that Weiss is a “wildly inappropriate” choice.
[12:38.18] <+HopesNotHere> . ...or PPG's mom
[12:38.33] <+gannon> good one bro
[12:38.42] <@kritklmas> <eyeroll>
[12:39.09] <+PrezPusyGrab> HopesNotHere: just wondering, do you see the difference in how you speak, versus almost everyone else? Screaming obscenities, talking about fucking moms like you're in middle school, do you not see how obviously unhinged and immature you are compared to others?
[12:39.09] <+RatBytes> Cruz alleged that Weiss “was a U.S. Attorney hand-picked to lead this investigation who spent the last five years covering it up” but neglected to mention that he was one of the senators involved in hand-picking him.
[12:39.35] <+PrezPusyGrab> HopesNotHere: I'm just curious if you notice the difference, or if it seems the same to you.
[12:39.52] <+gannon> imagine being lectured by PrezPusyGrab on being unhinged and immature
[12:40.17] <+RatBytes> gannon - you should "Add PrezPusyGrab" to your fake ignore list
[12:40.18] <+Debaser> gannon: have you thought about starting a legal eagle YouTube channel
[12:40.22] <+bodegacat> imagine being a fragile snowflake like gannon who insta-ignores everyone
[12:40.31] <+Debaser> To debunk the bad legal takes
[12:40.32] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon will make a little quip here and there, but then will concede and run off when proven wrong again.
[12:40.38] <+gannon> i only ignore worthless imbeciles
[12:40.49] <+RatBytes> gannon ignores himself
[12:40.54] <+gannon> nobody's ever proven me wrong
[12:40.58] <+gannon> feel free to try bro
[12:40.59] <+PrezPusyGrab> HopesNotHere: for instance, look at how I'm speaking above, and now look at this: oh yea what YOUR MOM you LEFT ass CUNTS!!!!!!
[12:41.00] <@kritklmas> lol
[12:41.04] <@kritklmas> that's a lie
[12:41.20] <+HopesNotHere> PPG L ,,When did I say THAT?
[12:41.29] <+RatBytes> kritklmas - I am pretty confident that gannon cannot remember ever having been proven wrong.
[12:41.30] <+PrezPusyGrab> HopesNotHere: its not a direct quote, but that's how you speak, isn't it?
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[12:41.42] <+HopesNotHere> PPG <-Should of been in Maui the other day
[12:41.59] <+HopesNotHere> ...locked in th
[12:42.00] <+HopesNotHere> e tr
[12:42.02] <+gannon> sick burn bro
[12:42.03] <@kritklmas> RatBytes traumatic memories often get shunted in snowflakes
[12:42.04] <+HopesNotHere> unk of a a
[12:42.12] <+PrezPusyGrab> HopesNotHere: tons of punctuation, caps, screaming obscenities, wishing death on everyone. Seems immature and unhinged, doesn't it?
[12:42.24] <+HopesNotHere> locked in the trunk of an automobile
[12:42.48] <+PrezPusyGrab> HopesNotHere: can you show anyone else who acts like that? I'm not trying to change who you are, I think it's funny, I'm just curious to look into the mind of a crazy person and see if you know you're crazy. Or at least suspect.
[12:42.57] <+HopesNotHere> No, Just YOU ,,,for now.
[12:43.06] <+RatBytes> PrezPusyGrab - I keep advising HopesNotHere that he might get some actual conversation if he acted more mature
[12:43.34] <+PrezPusyGrab> RatBytes: he's obviously not capable, I'm just curious if he has the self awareness to recognize something is wrong.
[12:43.34] <@kritklmas> I tried to crack that nut once.
[12:43.54] <+HopesNotHere> Too bad none of you live on Maui.....
[12:44.11] <+gannon> if he's obviously not capable, why are you asking him these questions
[12:44.23] <+HopesNotHere> <@kritklmas> I tried to crack that nut once. He ended up cracking his OWN NUTS
[12:44.42] <+RatBytes> PrezPusyGrab - he does. There are a limited set of topics upon which he will actually converse like a civilized adult... A few people have actually had brief mature convos with him
[12:44.44] <@kritklmas> HopesNotHere we were near a breakthrough
[12:44.44] <+HopesNotHere> Too bad THAT none of you live on Maui.....
[12:44.47] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon: like I said, I don't want to make him a rational person, I'm just interested to know if a crazy person such as himself knows he might be crazy, the same way I wonder if every now and then yo uhave the self realization you might be a fucking dumbass.
[12:44.55] <+gannon> PrezPusyGrab seems really impressed with his ability to recognize that a retard is retarded
[12:45.04] <+gannon> major accomplishment bro
[12:45.23] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon: no, I'm curious to know if you, the retard, knows you're retarded.
[12:45.31] <+PrezPusyGrab> or if you're just completely oblivious
[12:45.33] <+gannon> if you can show where i've ever made any factual or logical errors, I'd humbly accept that I'm a dumbass
[12:45.35] <+gannon> so go ahead and do that
[12:45.40] <+PrezPusyGrab> hahahaha
[12:45.42] <+RatBytes> I think gannon is willfully ignorant
[12:45.55] <@kritklmas> you assume we care what you think, there's one
[12:46.01] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon: scroll up to everyone you've conceded to and ran away from.
[12:46.07] <+gannon> be specific bro
[12:46.18] <+gannon> show a specific factual or logical error i've ever made
[12:46.21] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon: literally every time you've had to concede an argument and hide behind ignore.
[12:46.31] <+gannon> i'll give you 2 minutes
[12:46.37] <+RatBytes> gannon's speech reminds me of Trumps claim that "We won every state, by 100's of thousands of votes"
[12:46.38] <@kritklmas> lol exhibit A
[12:46.41] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon: scroll up, find the last time you've conceded an argument by using ignore
[12:46.49] <+bodegacat> Trump won arizona!!!
[12:46.54] <@kritklmas> lol
[12:47.01] <@kritklmas> no he didn't
[12:47.05] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon: if you weren't wrong, why concede/
[12:47.07] <+PrezPusyGrab> ?
[12:47.14] <+gannon> 1 minute bro
[12:47.14] <wptmj> nobodys going to win, whoever they say does
[12:47.17] <+gannon> show a specific factual or logical error i've ever made
[12:47.23] <+RatBytes> Trump won Georgia. In fact, he is going to visit there in the next few weeks to discuss it with some nice people...
[12:47.31] <@kritklmas> lol RatBytes
[12:47.37] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon: if you weren't wrong, why concede and retreat?
[12:47.43] <+gannon> he can't of course, but I'm asking anyway so that even the tards in the room can see what a fake/fraud/failure this guy is
[12:47.49] <+gannon> 30 seconds bro
[12:48.07] <@kritklmas> I hope he resists arrest and has to be TAZED! BZZZZZT!
[12:48.09] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon: Do olympic champions walk off the track and concede the match because they're too good?
[12:48.11] * RatBytes can see what a fake/fraud/failure gannon is
[12:48.11] <+bodegacat> Trump gave all the proof of election fraud to guiliani, it just got "misplaced"
[12:48.16] <+gannon> he thinks ignoring lying retards is "conceding and retreating" or something
[12:48.17] <+gannon> cool cope
[12:48.20] <+bodegacat> but it's in the same box as hunter biden's laptop
[12:48.23] <+gannon> 10 seconds bro
[12:48.28] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon: leaving the debate is conceding
[12:48.37] <+bodegacat> 10 seconds for snowflake to melt
[12:48.42] <@kritklmas> gannon, you are willfully ignorant, everyone knows it
[12:48.46] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon: If a basketball team walks off the court of a match, that's called a forfeit is it not?
[12:49.01] <+PrezPusyGrab> are you saying you forfeit because you're winning?
[12:49.04] <+gannon> Added *!*aww
[12:49.07] <+gannon> better luck next time
[12:49.13] <+PrezPusyGrab> lol gannon forfeits again
[12:49.18] <+gannon> kritklmas show a specific factual or logical error i've ever made
[12:49.27] <@kritklmas> you assume we care what you think, there's one
[12:49.30] <+gannon> you're slower than the rest, so I'll give you 4 minutes
[12:49.52] <@kritklmas> done
[12:49.54] <+RatBytes> ＋https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/09/giuliani-dog-ate-my-homework-smartmatic-lawyers，
[12:49.55] <@Lard> [url] Giuliani claims ‘dog ate my homework’ in Smartmatic case, lawyers say | Rudy Giuliani | The Guardian | ＋www.theguardian.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2a8dxwml， )
[12:50.22] <@kritklmas> and that's a repeated error
[12:51.02] <+PrezPusyGrab> kritklmas: tell him he already lost and forfeit this argument against me, so why move on and try to continue it now
[12:51.16] <+gannon> 2 minutes bro
[12:51.27] <@kritklmas> gannon see above.
[12:51.30] <+bodegacat> gannon won the argument just like trump won 2020 election
[12:51.45] <+gannon> i always win
[12:51.53] <@kritklmas> lol, there's another
[12:51.53] <+gannon> and trump lost the 2020 election
[12:53.15] <@kritklmas> gannon thinks he can ignore his way into winning
[12:53.25] <@kritklmas> <shrug>
[12:53.27] <+gannon> i ignore lying retards
[12:53.41] <+gannon> Added *!*hardwire
[12:53.43] <@kritklmas> you ignore everything you don't agree with
[12:53.47] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon always forfeits because he's winning
[12:54.07] <@kritklmas> I rest my case
[12:54.08] <+gannon> anyone else want to show me any factual or logical errors I've ever made
[12:54.08] <+bodegacat> i admit that ending a conversation with PPG usually feels like a winning move.
[12:54.22] <@kritklmas> lol
[12:54.32] <+RatBytes> Some people try to get stimulation by conversation... Others, such as gannon, hopesnothere, etc., learned their interaction skills when they found that if they lay on the floor and screamed that mommy would give them what they wanted
[12:55.04] <+gannon> you guys are so bad at this too
[12:55.17] <+gannon> you'd think you'd have some basic skills
[12:55.31] <@kritklmas> lol, ok then, he's completely disconnected
[12:55.44] <+bodegacat> i want my stimulation from hot tinder chicks
[12:55.44] <@kritklmas> oh well
[12:55.44] <+RatBytes> So, does anybody want to talk about something OTHER than gannon or HopesNotHere ?
[12:55.45] <+gannon> even Deanr can do some rudimentary Christian apologetics
[12:56.05] <+gannon> you dopes can't even spell debate
[12:56.09] <@kritklmas> RatBytes watching any football?
[12:56.21] <+RatBytes> nope... don't watch sports
[12:56.24] <@kritklmas> ok
[12:56.36] <+gannon> just tell yourself the Other Guy is an idiot and "willfully ignorant"
[12:56.46] <+bodegacat> Added *!*MeltedSnowflake
[12:56.51] <+gannon> that gets you a zero in real life
[12:56.59] <+RatBytes> One of the chatters in #newsgarden lives on Maui... he had to evacuate and will find out what his place looks like soon
[12:57.08] <+gannon> huge points though in IRC culter rooms
[12:57.19] <+payuirtuk> it was Debaser
[12:57.32] <@kritklmas> gannon, you wish you had a command of the subject matter, but you've lied and ignored your way into a false confidence
[12:57.56] <@kritklmas> so...
[12:58.08] <@kritklmas> nuff said
[12:58.38] <+RatBytes> did you guys see that car fires on RORO ferries are more dangerous now that EV are more common? Them batteries burn HOT
[12:58.53] <@kritklmas> well, kind of a slow day sofar in the park here
[12:59.06] <+RatBytes> The ship that burned off of the Netherlands coast ... the top decks MELTED
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[12:59.25] <@kritklmas> RatBytes are there lots of EV fires?
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[13:00.01] <+RatBytes> kritklmas - they don't know what started the last three fires, but EVs were involved in all of them
[13:00.07] <@kritklmas> ok
[13:00.13] <+payuirtuk> billy joel did
[13:00.30] <+RatBytes> spraying water on a burning LiPo battery is a great way to get a fireworks show
[13:00.39] <@kritklmas> I was thinking about picking up an electric bicycle
[13:00.49] <+RatBytes> they're not that heavy :)
[13:00.54] <@kritklmas> lol
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[13:01.03] <+gannon> died?
[13:01.05] <+RatBytes> P1 isn't even HERE...
[13:01.08] <@kritklmas> I mean perchasing one :)
[13:01.15] <+payuirtuk> i use lifepo
[13:01.16] <+gannon> his career died 40 years ago
[13:01.18] <@kritklmas> purchasing
[13:01.18] <+bodegacat> kritklmas you're supposed to ride on them not pick them up
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[13:01.31] <+RatBytes> P1 isn't here...
[13:01.53] <+RatBytes> hey EatDikP1 --- P1 ain't here !!!!
[13:02.05] * kritklmas waves to the outside where 'loser troll' is
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[13:02.19] <+gannon> EatDikP1 seems awfully quiet
[13:02.20] <@kritklmas> na nana booboo
[13:02.31] <+tzipsaway> ＋https://www.cbsnews.com/news/children-fire-guns-toddlers-unintentional-shootings/，
[13:02.32] <@Lard> [url] Accidental shootings by children keep happening. How toddlers are able to fire guns. - CBS News | ＋www.cbsnews.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/24x2e6pn， )
[13:02.35] <@kritklmas> I took away his mouth
[13:02.36] <+RatBytes> kritklmas - if you get free electric with your job it may well be a great idea
[13:02.37] <+Bathsheba`> na nana bo
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[13:02.45] <+Bathsheba`> kritklmas: you okay ?
[13:02.47] <+tzipsaway> This year, a 6-year-old boy shot his infant sibling twice in one incident. In June, a 3-year-old boy died after he accidentally shot himself in Tennessee, officials said. In May, a 4-year-old girl accidentally shot and killed another child in Illinois, authorities said. Another 4-year-old girl was critically injured after she accidentally shot herself in the head in Georgia
[13:02.53] <+tzipsaway> Gun rights, anybody?
[13:02.57] <+Bathsheba`> RatBytes hi
[13:03.02] <@kritklmas> Bathsheba` yes, ty for asking :) lol
[13:03.05] <+RatBytes> Hi Bathsheba`
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[13:03.49] <+Bathsheba`> kritklmas: good I was worried when I saw this na na bo whatever...
[13:04.03] <@kritklmas> Bathsheba` it's from my childhood
[13:04.10] <+Bathsheba`> some cunts are awakeeee
[13:04.11] <+JustBeKalm> I hate guns.
[13:04.14] <+Bathsheba`> Good
[13:04.14] <@kritklmas> like neener neener
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[13:04.16] <+Bathsheba`> ha
[13:04.19] <+JustBeKalm> There should be no rights.
[13:04.23] <+RatBytes> I want a law that says that if a minor commits a violent crime using a gun that was obtained in the home, that the parent/custodian be charged as an accesory, AND lose all rights to custody of the child AND lose all gun rights.
[13:04.25] <+PrezPusyGrab> tzipsaway: definitely worth it so incels can have the power to kill people.
[13:04.29] <+PrezPusyGrab> fuck those kids
[13:04.32] <+gannon> Added *!*threedogs
[13:04.36] <+JustBeKalm> They are eventually going to get into the hands of a murderer.
[13:04.47] <+Bathsheba`> JustBeKalm: hello
[13:04.55] <+PrezPusyGrab> tzipsaway: sorry, I was being sarcastic, but that sounded pretty horrible anyways
[13:04.56] <+JustBeKalm> Hiya, Bathsheba` :) How are you?
[13:04.58] <+gannon> thank god psychopaths in trailer don't have any actual power
[13:05.08] <+Bathsheba`> JustBeKalm: miserable
[13:05.18] <@kritklmas> hey, everybody wave to the troll! hi!
[13:05.20] <+Bathsheba`> that's the best I can for now
[13:05.25] <+JustBeKalm> Bathsheba`, i'm so sorry :<<<<<<<<<
[13:05.29] <+Bathsheba`> JustBeKalm
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[13:05.41] <+JustBeKalm> My heart is with you.
[13:05.46] <+Bathsheba`> me too but that's fucking life ...
[13:05.48] <+PrezPusyGrab> gannon is thankful to god that he has no power?
[13:05.55] <+Bathsheba`> JustBeKalm: thanks <3
[13:06.02] <+JustBeKalm> Of course.
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[13:06.09] <+JustBeKalm> Life can be a bitch :<<<<<<<<
[13:06.12] <+PrezPusyGrab> everyone I know with tons of guns is a gigantic pussy
[13:06.12] <@kritklmas> wb troll
[13:06.17] <+RatBytes> I believe in gun ownership, but right now, people are treating guns like toys... my dad would have whupped my ass if I had ever created a chair tower and gotten the guns down from a high shelf in a locked closet...
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[13:06.23] <+Bathsheba`> again
[13:06.27] <+Bathsheba`> ban that
[13:06.31] <+Bathsheba`> kritklmas: .
[13:06.42] <+PrezPusyGrab> there's a few reasonable people that like one pistol I know for self defense, but the ones with like 20 guns, I wouldn't bet on in a fight. Any fight.
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[13:06.46] <@kritklmas> Bathsheba` I will
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[13:07.01] <+JustBeKalm> If there is gun ownership it is going to get into the wrong hands. And in this country, it does. Often.
[13:07.11] <+payuirtuk> i like my hands though
[13:07.27] <+Bathsheba`> this kateuk
[13:07.32] <+Bathsheba`> is katefr also
[13:07.39] <+RatBytes> PrezPusyGrab - I was trying to load my gun to protect my fambly, but I jammed the gun when I tried loading teh wrong ammo... I got so many different types.
[13:07.47] <+Bathsheba`> and some psicho as I see
[13:07.50] <@kritklmas> hmm, never knew that Bathsheba`
[13:07.58] <+Bathsheba`> now you know
[13:08.03] <@kritklmas> <nod>
[13:08.06] <+Bathsheba`> yw :)
[13:08.09] <@kritklmas> ty
[13:08.16] <+PrezPusyGrab> JustBeKalm: don't be silly, obviously if you have gun laws, criminals don't listen to laws, so only criminals will have guns. Look at all the criminals with guns in japan, south korea, australia, britain, germany, compared to the US, where criminals have no guns.
[13:08.16] <+Bathsheba`> yup yw
[13:08.37] <@kritklmas> and guys like John Wick
[13:08.39] <+PrezPusyGrab> only hard working red blooded americans
[13:09.00] <+RatBytes> I literally heard a guy say "I am against waiting periods. If my house is being burgled I don't want to have to wait 3 days to get a gun". My answer was "If you have to drive to a gun store, buy a gun, and drive home it's too fucking late already."
[13:09.07] <+Bathsheba`> can blood be some other colour?
[13:09.12] <+JustBeKalm> PrezPusyGrab, we have more homicides by gun (by a lot) than all those countries.
[13:09.16] <+Bathsheba`> Green maybe ?
[13:09.20] <+PrezPusyGrab> JustBeKalm: I'm being extremely sarcastic.
[13:09.29] <+JustBeKalm> PrezPusyGrab, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...hahaha :P
[13:09.47] <+JustBeKalm> I never know because I've spoken to a few liberals who love guns too.
[13:09.54] <+RatBytes> payuirtuk - Kotex for you
[13:09.55] <@kritklmas> I ordered a new xbox yesterday, I have to wait 3 days to get it shipped! I wanna shoot someone! :P
[13:10.03] <+payuirtuk> sweet
[13:10.09] <+JustBeKalm> krit, haha.
[13:10.17] <+PrezPusyGrab> JustBeKalm: I mean I kinda like guns, they're fun. But statistics don't lie.
[13:10.18] <+Bathsheba`> RatBytes: quote X
[13:10.29] <+payuirtuk> im not on my period
[13:10.33] <+chowder-pop> LOL ＋https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/J5XN2o3X/F3aVP4hWYAAU7Hp.jpg，
[13:10.41] <+RatBytes> I have a security detail protecting my home 24/7
[13:10.50] <+JustBeKalm> Well, I was ridiculed in elementary school. I think I should go back today and....I can't even type it. People use guns for revenge as stupid as being picked on in gradae school.
[13:11.10] <+Bathsheba`> RatBytes: feel safe?
[13:11.28] <+JustBeKalm> It never ever even crossed my mind: "I wish I could kill them." More like "WIsh I could change schools." I don't understand wanting to kill people.
[13:11.36] <+RatBytes> Bathsheba` - yup. Although sometimes my security detail wakes me up at 3 or 4 AM barking at deer.
[13:11.44] <@kritklmas> JustBeKalm right there with that
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[13:12.06] <+Bathsheba`> RatBytes:aaahhhhĥh
[13:12.07] <+JustBeKalm> Oh, here's somebody who probably loves his guns.
[13:12.13] <+chowder-pop> ＋https://twitter.com/alx/status/1690537707787767808，
[13:12.15] <@Lard> [Twitter] ALX đŸ‡ºđŸ‡¸ (@alx): San Francisco is dying ⏎ ＋https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1690495705885122561/pu/vid/576x1024/te3DADzGFwPxbfup.mp4?tag=12， | 1472 RTs | 6678 ♥s | Posted: 2023-08-13 - 01:36:12UTC
[13:12.19] <+Bathsheba`> yeah RatBytes you're saf3
[13:12.20] <+RatBytes> Jesus prefered a .357 magnum
[13:12.25] <+payuirtuk> he did?
[13:12.32] <+payuirtuk> did you ask him?
[13:12.39] <+JustBeKalm> Can't. He's dead.
[13:12.40] <+RatBytes> it's in the republican bible
[13:12.44] <+JustBeKalm> lol
[13:12.47] <+Bathsheba`> I did ...
[13:12.50] <+PrezPusyGrab> I'm not eating bugs. I'll watch the whole planet burn first, I want beef.
[13:13.05] <@kritklmas> PrezPusyGrab agreed
[13:13.14] <+RatBytes> Magnum 3:57 And Jesus said unto the crowd "Shoot first, and ask questions later, for God shall sort them out"
[13:13.30] <@kritklmas> lol
[13:13.44] <+JustBeKalm> I have noticed that a LOT of vegan girls either have serious, dangreous eating disorders or are trying to get over eating disorders but are trying to still eat less.
[13:13.48] <@kritklmas> that's a long chapter
[13:13.54] <+Bathsheba`> smeagol is good
[13:13.54] <+PrezPusyGrab> RatBytes: "And verily I say unto you, Deanr. Build camps upon camps, with furnaces and gas showers, to purge the gay sinners"
[13:14.10] <+JustBeKalm> Jesus could shoot someone on 5th Ave. and not even be arrested, like Trump.
[13:14.14] <+RatBytes> God hates the f-words
[13:14.29] <+JustBeKalm> God cusses.
[13:14.37] <+JustBeKalm> Fucken stupid humans!
[13:14.45] <@kritklmas> God can FUCKING kiss my hairy ass
[13:14.51] <+Bathsheba`> RatBytes: God does not exists..didn't you know that already?
[13:14.59] <+PrezPusyGrab> RatBytes: Jesus is too fucking liberal, thats why we have Pastor Deacon Fred and the good Landover Baptist church to set Christians straight ＋www.landoverbapstist.org，
[13:15.08] <+Bathsheba`> kritklmas that's gross
[13:15.10] <+PrezPusyGrab> ＋www.landoverbaptist.org，
[13:15.28] <+RatBytes> According to Deanr logic, the Westboro Baptist Church must be preaching the gospel correctly since it offends so many people. Deanr calls it a win when he annoys the fuck out of somebody (since the fuck is a sin)
[13:15.31] <+PrezPusyGrab> Where the worthwhile worship, unsaved, unwelcome.
[13:15.53] <+PrezPusyGrab> RatBytes: you're talking about someone who said governments executing every gay person would be righteous and supported slavery.
[13:15.58] <+Bathsheba`> mhm fuck is the sin
[13:16.00] <+RatBytes> kritklmas - you don't shave your ass ?
[13:16.06] <@kritklmas> Bathsheba` sorry, I mean... God and I have a love hate relationship. is that better?
[13:16.06] <+Bathsheba`> ..since when?
[13:16.08] <+PrezPusyGrab> of COURSE this guy is a supporter of westboro
[13:16.15] <+Deanr`> RatBytes: time to find another tune, don't you think?
[13:16.20] <+RatBytes> Only YOU can prevent dingleberries. Shave your ass.
[13:16.26] <+PrezPusyGrab> "stop talking about how evil I am" -- Deanr`
[13:16.27] <@kritklmas> lol
[13:16.28] <+Deanr`> RatBytes: it's pretty boring.
[13:16.38] <+RatBytes> Deanr` - I will when you do.
[13:16.41] <+Bathsheba`> kritklmas: that's sick now lol
[13:16.48] <+PrezPusyGrab> ＋https://landoverbaptist.org/2019/june/cagesforchrist.html，
[13:16.49] <@Lard> [url] Bible Camp Youths to Build Cages for Mexican Children | landoverbaptist.org ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/22bcwhdj， )
[13:16.50] <+JustBeKalm> "Give me a chance to preach!!!!" Deanr
[13:16.56] <@kritklmas> lol Bathsheba`
[13:17.26] <+Bathsheba`> hey Deanr` so you're that psich...
[13:17.33] <+PrezPusyGrab> “It was an epiphany when it clicked to connect our Bible Gun Camp kids with Cages for Christ. This annointed kenneling ministry already works closely with animals, providing church members with comfortable cages for their pets and Wiccan Hunters with holding kennels during Wicca Hunting Season,” says Pastor Fred.
[13:17.34] <+Bathsheba`> Nice to meet you buddy
[13:18.06] <+Bathsheba`> kritklmas: this one could be my PhD from psychology lol
[13:18.10] <+RatBytes> Wait... they don't cage the kids? Spare the cage, spoil the wife !!!
[13:18.17] <+Bathsheba`> I must be nice to him
[13:18.20] <+PrezPusyGrab> “These cages will be used as vessels to further God’s message!” Pastor assured church members on Sunday morning. “As True Christians™ we know there ain’t no such thing as free. This is a perfect opportunity to teach these rebellious little brown folks something about Jesus and what it means to be a real American,” he said.
[13:18.41] <@kritklmas> Bathsheba` ok, do your worst ;)
[13:18.51] <+Bathsheba`> kritklmas: lol
[13:18.58] <+PrezPusyGrab> RatBytes: yes, they cage the kids, and then teach them about hard work by making them work to pay for the rent on the cage.
[13:19.12] <+PrezPusyGrab> RatBytes: “We’re asking campers to clip photos of Mexican children out of National Geographic or just get a photo of a short haired monkey or something so they can pretend to adopt someone they are building a cage for,” says Bible Gun Camp Counselor, Horace Wilkins.
[13:19.47] <+Bathsheba`> Mexican are Catholics
[13:20.15] <@kritklmas> all of them?
[13:20.22] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: exactly, they're not True Christians™
[13:20.28] <+RatBytes> Back in the 1950's the WHO came up with a plan to erradicate small pox from the planet. Every country in the UN signed on. By 1980 smallpox was erradicated. That was when science was respected. Now we have fundamentalist evangelists, political hacks, and conspiracy theorists making it impossible to propose and enact SIMPLE health
[13:20.29] <+RatBytes> measures...
[13:20.55] <+Debaser> Deanr do you really think Christians don't suffer if they've made peace with jesus
[13:20.56] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: what does that means not truth Christians
[13:20.58] <+RatBytes> PrezPusyGrab - nothing teaches a child their self value like working in a mine for 10 hours a day...
[13:21.13] <+JustBeKalm> Oh, sure, Debaser. Encourage him :<<<<<
[13:21.15] <+Debaser> They don't need painkillers?
[13:21.17] <+Debaser> Hahah
[13:21.19] <+PrezPusyGrab> ＋https://www.landoverbaptist.org/sermons/cantwait.html，
[13:21.20] <@Lard> [url] I Can't Wait To See People Burn In Hell!: A Sermon | ＋www.landoverbaptist.org， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/24wnuf2x， )
[13:21.38] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: I asked you :)
[13:21.42] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: Not Southern baptists, just frauds and pretenders.
[13:22.21] <+Bathsheba`> ohh southern Baptists are more like sect then part of religion
[13:22.28] <+RatBytes> Well, it's cooled down a bit outside... time to go pretend I was working hard for a long time so that when Mrs Rat gets home from her visit with friends that I will get some brownie points
[13:22.36] <+Bathsheba`> but hey....how I could know that lol
[13:22.37] <@kritklmas> ok gotta go work stuff
[13:22.37] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: Catholics are mary worshipping scum!
[13:22.45] <+PrezPusyGrab> not welcome in heaven or real church!
[13:22.51] * RatBytes wanders off to try to get brownie points
[13:22.52] <@kritklmas> someone get the modes for me when the time comes
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[13:23.17] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: all religions are scum and trash and pure slavery
[13:23.38] <+JustBeKalm> Bathsheba`, true that. All of the Abrahamic religions anyway.
[13:24.10] <+Bathsheba`> JustBeKalm exactly...
[13:24.13] <+JustBeKalm> Written by men, all about how women and gays are inferior.
[13:24.15] <+Deanr`> Debaser: you misunderstood what I said. Christians do suffer, but they can be at peace through their suffering.
[13:24.23] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: These folks are still more pagan than Christian. Only now, their favorite goddess is Mary, the mother of Jesus. They try to be politically correct and say things like, "We don't pray to Mary, we just give her homage or ask her to run off and take our prayers to Jesus when He's too busy to hear them." Well, what the heck's the ding dang difference? Catholics are no better than pagans or Wiccans, praying to stone statues and trees.
[13:24.33] <+Bathsheba`> pretty strict in everything...make them dangerous even
[13:24.33] <+Debaser> Deanr`: so they don't need painkillers?
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[13:24.45] <+Debaser> Deanr`: do you have a study you could site that shows Christians don't use painkillers?
[13:24.49] <+Debaser> Cite*
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[13:24.59] <+Deanr`> Debaser: really? Is that really your conclusion of what I said?
[13:25.00] <+JustBeKalm> but they can be at peace through their suffering.<---------Doesn't make any sense unless you are going to commit suicide next.
[13:25.11] <+Bathsheba`> Jesus is not a god .....same thing ...
[13:25.18] <+Debaser> Deanr`: if they're at peace with suffering why would they need painkillers?
[13:25.44] <+Debaser> It's a fascinating idea
[13:25.58] <+Debaser> But I don't believe you
[13:26.01] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: you do know that ...right?
[13:26.02] <+JustBeKalm> Debaser, the christian population must be big on opiods.
[13:26.38] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: what do Catholics know anyway? They are so dad gum ignorant that they even call their skirt wearing priests, "Father?" Well, Matthew 23:9 says; "And call no man your FATHER (this includes Priests) upon the earth: for one is your Father which is in heaven." I certainly wouldn't want to have to explain to God why I was running around on Earth calling every man I saw wearing a skirt and a collar my Father. Would you?
[13:26.48] <+Debaser> They don't need opioids! Or anesthesiologists
[13:27.05] <+Debaser> They're at peace with being cut open during surgery apparently
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[13:27.49] <+JustBeKalm> I'll bet there are christian trans genders.
[13:28.03] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: you're wrong ...they have very good theoretical knowledge ...actually...much better then orthodox even tho orthodox are right lol
[13:28.18] <+Bathsheba`> it's complicated
[13:28.43] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: True Christians® who read the Bible know that there is only one advocate for confessing our sins. 1 John 2:1 says, "And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and He is the propitiation for our sins."
[13:29.05] <+Bathsheba`> JustBeKalm: of course it does ...but that has nothing with religion its personal choice
[13:29.16] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: If that doesn't get your goat, Catholics are so Bible illiterate they even believe their priests have the power to forgive their sins! Mark 2:7 is pretty clear about who has the power to forgive sins, folks. It says, "Why doth this man (Catholic Priests) speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but GOD ONLY."
[13:29.18] <+bodegacat> hmm i just renewed my driver's license online, we'll see how that works out for me
[13:29.22] <+gannon> Concern is rising about the Covid-19 variant EG.5
[13:29.26] <+gannon> get your SHOTS
[13:30.00] <+bodegacat> thanks for the reminder gannon
[13:30.09] <+bodegacat> probably go get vax'd in sept or oct
[13:30.18] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: doesn't goes like that
[13:30.23] <+Bathsheba`> huh
[13:30.51] <+Bathsheba`> Jesus took over all sins of humans ..he can't give forgiveness...
[13:31.01] <+Bathsheba`> he just took the punishment
[13:31.13] <+Bathsheba`> oh cmon am I talking about religion
[13:31.15] <+Deanr`> Debaser: every person will have to give an account for their lives after they die. For Christians, they will not be judged for their sins because Christ paid the debt for their sin. God will only see Christ's righteousness in the sinful Christian. This is what brings peace. Also, for the Christian, there is a good purpose for everything they endure in this life, and God is with them. This
[13:31.15] <+Deanr`> is also what provides them peace.
[13:31.29] <+Bathsheba`> and I've promised myself I'll not going to do that
[13:31.49] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: Its them Catho-licks with their Rosary Beads. They used em in the Bible too didn't they? Wasn't there a tribe of Philistines in the Old Testament who used a string of beads to count off how many Jews they be-headed? Oh, that couldn't be it now, could it? Them Catho-licks use em to count their prayers.
[13:31.54] <+JustBeKalm> Deanr`, cut the bullshit.
[13:31.57] <+JustBeKalm> Please.
[13:32.10] <+gannon> how dumb are religious believers
[13:32.10] <+Deanr`> Debaser: for the non-Christian, the very opposite is true. They have no hope, they will pay for their own sins and suffer for all eternity.
[13:32.10] <+JustBeKalm> It's like listening to a child reciting some made up story.
[13:32.14] <+PrezPusyGrab> peace == murdering millions of poeple for being sinners
[13:32.16] <+gannon> answer: real dumb
[13:32.29] <+JustBeKalm> Deanr`, you are mamking up stuff.
[13:32.38] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: it's not dogma it's politics ....that's how they payed for crusade...
[13:32.39] <+Debaser> Deanr`: so Christians still take painkillers?
[13:32.43] <+Deanr`> JustBeKalm: it's all in the bible.
[13:32.45] <+Debaser> I can't understand your response
[13:32.49] <+Deanr`> Debaser: of course.
[13:33.06] <+PrezPusyGrab> That's somewhere in on of Paul's letters ain’t it. In the Epistles, doesn't Paul say somethin’ like, “If some of you new Christians is too dumb to count, why not use the old bead around the string method?” Maybe it went somethin’ more like, “God isn't interested in what you've got to say, or whether or not you really say it, Its how many times you say it that really counts. He don't keep count very well, but if you keep sayin’ the
[13:33.06] <+PrezPusyGrab> same thing over and over again, you may get on his nerves enough for him to listen!!"
[13:33.10] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`:
[13:33.14] <+Deanr`> we don't glory in our pain, we seek to end it.
[13:33.17] <+Debaser> Deanr`: so they're not at peace with suffering
[13:33.24] <+Debaser> They seek to end it
[13:33.27] <+Deanr`> Debaser: why is this so hard for you to understand?
[13:33.41] <+Debaser> You said they're at peace with suffering but they also seek painkillers
[13:33.41] <+gannon> imagine being older than 9 and still believing the invisible man in the sky who watches you all day and night will send you to the Bad Place for pulling your sister's hair and playing with your pee pee
[13:33.43] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: Then when he’s talkin’ to you, you can show him your nice little necklace and remind him how many times you kept repeatin’ yerself!” Well now, that seems like a nice little idea don't it?
[13:33.48] <+Debaser> Makes no fucking sense, Deanr`
[13:33.52] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: agreed
[13:33.56] <+Debaser> Apply basic logic.
[13:33.59] <+Deanr`> Debaser: peace does not mean they are without pain.
[13:34.04] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: Another thing that just 'irks me is this incense they got smokin up the house of God (If a Catho-lick church can be called the house of God). Wasn't there a bunch of folks from Scotland about four thousand years ago who lit that junk in the middle of a five-pointed star while they drained the blood of their first born sons?
[13:34.20] <+Debaser> But it means they're at peace with the pain, so why would they need painkillers?
[13:34.32] <+Deanr`> Debaser: to relieve the pain.
[13:34.38] <+Deanr`> hello?
[13:34.47] <+Debaser> Why relieve something they're at peace with?
[13:34.48] <+OldMole> uh, wut
[13:35.02] <+OldMole> YES, HELLO
[13:35.11] <+OldMole> (stolen from mans0n)
[13:35.13] <+Deanr`> they are at peace with God, not peace with the pain.
[13:35.24] <+Debaser> You said they're at peace with suffering.
[13:35.27] <+gannon> trying to get cogent reasoning from a religious psychotic is like getting your dog to write a novel in Norwegian
[13:35.30] <+PrezPusyGrab> Deanr` is at peace with slavery and mass murder.
[13:35.31] <+Debaser> Pain is a form of suffering
[13:35.39] <+Deanr`> they are at peace during the suffering.
[13:35.41] <+PrezPusyGrab> because he's a fucking psychopath
[13:35.49] <+Deanr`> the suffering is still very real
[13:35.58] <+OldMole> then what is "peace"
[13:36.01] <+OldMole> here
[13:36.01] <+OldMole> Im confused
[13:36.11] <+Debaser> Ya it's all just gobbledygook
[13:36.24] <+Deanr`> peace is knowing that God is with them, loves them, and the pain is only temporal.
[13:36.27] <+Debaser> None of what you're saying makes any sense
[13:36.30] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: that is demagoguery
[13:36.50] <+OldMole> "only" temporal?
[13:37.15] <+Deanr`> with the non-believer, the lack of such peace causes mental anquish during the suffering.
[13:37.23] <+gannon> psycho just cut my arms and legs off with a chainsaw and I'm bleeding to death and in agony - also I'm "at peace" because my invisible friend is with me
[13:37.34] <+OldMole> its only "temporal"
[13:37.36] <+OldMole> youll be fine
[13:37.40] <+Bathsheba`> Deanr`: ha e you got your pills today ?
[13:37.59] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: Anyone can call himself a Christian, but that doesn’t make it so. Anyone can quote the Bible, but that doesn’t make him saved. Anyone can build a giant, elaborate cathedral, with stained glass windows and ornate sculptures, but that doesn’t make him Heaven-bound.
[13:38.13] <+Bathsheba`> am I reading this or I am delusional??? huh
[13:38.30] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: he number of Hell-bound heathens claiming to believe in Jesus is countless. They go by names like Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Moonies and Branch Davidians. No matter the name, they will roast on a spit above Satan’s hot coals for eternity while we sip Rothschild’s finest with our Savior in Heaven.
[13:38.33] <+PrezPusyGrab> the*
[13:38.34] <+JustBeKalm> Well, being a Christian doesn't mean anything in the big picture.
[13:38.37] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: you're preaching.
[13:38.51] <+gannon> religion is a mental disorder
[13:38.51] <+OldMole> how big is this big picture?
[13:39.10] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: but the worst of these is the Catho-lick
[13:39.13] <+JustBeKalm> OldMole, you don't get to talk to Jesus or anyone when you die. It's over then.
[13:39.14] <+OldMole> its not a mental disorder, but it sure is some sloppy thinking
[13:39.40] <+gannon> this god guy could prevent or stop the pain, but you're supposed to be "at peace" knowing he loves you and is standing right there - doing nothing as you scream in pain. If you didn't believe this absurdity, you'd be in "mental anquish" or something
[13:39.54] <+OldMole> gannon well, thats what the pills are for
[13:40.01] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: the oldest from you've mentioned and all you've mentioned become from Catholicism
[13:40.05] <+Bathsheba`> it's basic
[13:40.06] <+gannon> Think of the gymnastics a brain has to do to make this horseshit make sense
[13:40.10] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: The bottom line is that the Catholic church is nothing more than a cult that happened to catch on. Granted, the pope has a greater following than Jim Jones did, but the distinction ends there. One need only watch an altar boy walk bowlegged from a priest’s chambers to recognize theirs is hardly the “true faith.”
[13:40.11] <+Deanr`> Talk to any experienced healthcare worker, expeically nurses.... about the observable differences between a dying non-Christian and dying Christian.
[13:40.19] <+OldMole> uh
[13:40.21] <+OldMole> really?
[13:40.29] <+Deanr`> yeah, really.
[13:40.30] <+JustBeKalm> Although I've been very interested in Near Death Experiences. If any of that is true, we are right and Christianity is just fake. But it is either way.
[13:40.41] <+OldMole> "any experienced healthcare worker"
[13:40.50] <+OldMole> like...in Saudi Arabia?
[13:40.51] <+OldMole> in china?
[13:41.02] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: do we debate or you're preaching?
[13:41.02] <+Deanr`> OldMole: how is the location relevent?
[13:41.03] <+OldMole> theyre all like, man, those Christians, they sure die peacefully
[13:41.20] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: I'm just fucking with you, I don't believe any of that nonsense.
[13:41.35] <+PrezPusyGrab> Call me when Christians can LIVE peacefully
[13:41.40] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: me either
[13:41.44] <+Bathsheba`> lol
[13:41.47] <+tzip> JustBeKalm, NDE's are like any other cultural meme that sweeps through a population. It's strictly heresay with stories that people just dream up and post on the internet.
[13:42.02] <+PrezPusyGrab> who gives a shit if Christians die peacefully if they spent their whole life preaching mass murder and slavery?
[13:42.06] <+OldMole> Deanr` what is you claim about the "observable differences between a dying Christian and a dying non-christian" that those nurses will tell me about
[13:42.14] <+Bathsheba`> there is CRAP and religion is UNDER CRAP
[13:42.20] <+JustBeKalm> tzip, I'm not sure what they are. I'm not dead yet. Like everyone else, I will wait and see.
[13:42.42] <+JustBeKalm> I know some pe ople who are very sane and swear they are real, so I will wait.
[13:42.56] <+JustBeKalm> Bu there is nothing like Christianity.
[13:42.56] <+Deanr`> OldMole: they die with hope and peace. Their demeanor is totally different from that of an unbeliever.
[13:43.00] <+OldMole> I really shouldnt be amazed at how full of shit Deanr` is by now, yet somehow, I always am, is that a Christmas mircale?
[13:43.01] <+tzip> JustBeKalm, although, it would be fun to have some organization with a boatload of money have a camera in an isolated waiting room along with one in the operating room and see if they could come across with any actual incident. I'm doubting wildly that they'd ever find anything, but it would be fun to try.
[13:43.02] <+Bathsheba`> even if we ask physics about it .
[13:43.17] <+gannon> look at the christian psycho projecting his fears
[13:43.25] <+PrezPusyGrab> according to Deanr` Christians spend their entire lives making everyone else miserable trying to kill people but they die happy and thats proof god is real
[13:43.36] <+PrezPusyGrab> and not psychopathy
[13:43.37] <+JustBeKalm> tzip, he was an atheist before his experience. I know he wouldn't make it up. So I shall wait. I"m not afraid there is any Jesus or hell.
[13:43.46] <+Bathsheba`> human exists in 5 dimensions....Christian religion have mentioned only 3
[13:43.50] <+Bathsheba`> :)
[13:43.51] <+OldMole> Deanr` how does this demeaner manifest? facial expression? hear rate? what metric would they be attesting to?
[13:43.57] <+JustBeKalm> PrezPusyGrab, well, he's right about making others miserable.
[13:44.13] <+PrezPusyGrab> JustBeKalm: well tbh I added that part, but its accurate
[13:44.22] <+Bathsheba`> okaaaay no more religion for me lol
[13:44.27] <+Bathsheba`> enough
[13:44.33] <+Deanr`> OldMole: I'll let you imagine how that might be. I don't need to explain the obvious.
[13:44.36] <+PrezPusyGrab> all the Christians that died of covid just died peacefully and didn't care
[13:44.45] <+PrezPusyGrab> OldMole: he'll let you imagine it, since that's what he did.
[13:44.54] <+gannon> Deanr` do you even have videos bro
[13:44.57] <+JustBeKalm> Me too. If Deanr` starts up, I'll just put him on ignore for now. I can only listen for so long before I get really bored.
[13:44.59] <+OldMole> Deanr` the "obvious" huh
[13:45.03] <+OldMole> youre such a weasel
[13:45.21] <+JustBeKalm> It's like talking to a MAGA about Trump winning.
[13:45.30] <+JustBeKalm> Makes no sense. Gets boring afater a while.
[13:45.31] <+Deanr`> OldMole: I'm certain that even you can imagine, if you don't already know, what I"m talking about.
[13:45.32] <+PrezPusyGrab> OldMole: Deanr` is just giving you the opportunity to imagine this stuff, since it would be wrong to deprive you from the experience he had.
[13:45.45] <+Deanr`> OldMole: so please, spare me.
[13:45.55] <+PrezPusyGrab> why wouldn't he be able to? you did
[13:45.56] <+JustBeKalm> PrezPusyGrab, what if we don't want to? :)
[13:45.59] <+Deanr`> dumb playing.
[13:46.15] <+PrezPusyGrab> Deanr` just made this shit up, so why can't you?
[13:46.58] <+OldMole> Deanr` what is "obvious" to everyone who seems to be chatting with you, is just how full of shit you are. You're making assertions with no backing, no evidence, no even a claim of a measurable metric, when questioned on it, you defer to your superior supernatural knowledge of imply your interlocutor secretly ALREADY KNOWS and therefore its beneath you to answer. This is why you are a weasel.
[13:47.04] <+Bathsheba`> ppl we should respect his choices
[13:47.26] <+Bathsheba`> let's debate not insulting each other
[13:47.46] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: no you should just make fun of someone who comes online preaching how mass murder and slavery are good.
[13:47.48] <+gannon> harmful delusions and psychopathy is nothing to respect bro
[13:47.59] <+JustBeKalm> I'm just going to put him on ignore.
[13:48.05] <+JustBeKalm> There.
[13:48.14] <+PrezPusyGrab> JustBeKalm: you just love your sin!
[13:48.23] <+JustBeKalm> PrezPusyGrab lolol.
[13:48.30] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: that can do just sick person,he needs help ...not to make fun of him
[13:48.34] <+JustBeKalm> There is no such thing as "sin." lol
[13:48.42] <+PrezPusyGrab> Its certainly not possible for HolyDean to be wrong and annoying, the problem must be with everyone else.
[13:48.48] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: its not my responsibility to help this idiot.
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[13:49.23] <+kmh> PrezPusyGrab, why not? after all you're ze pretzledent
[13:49.43] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: it's not ...but you're your responsibility....why you make yourself worse then him...I mean you're civilised person...
[13:49.46] <+PrezPusyGrab> The best I can do is help Deanr` serve a purpose as the laughing stock
[13:49.58] <+PrezPusyGrab> You're welcome.
[13:50.26] <+OldMole> I have debated Christians on IRC before, but few of them are as duplicitous as Deanr`
[13:50.30] <+Deanr`> OldMole: when I say it's obvious, I'm saying that I'm confident that I know what the other person knows what I'm refering to. I know, that you know what I'm talking about, and it's likely you've even heard it from healthcare workers, since they often talk about it. Please spare me the dumb playing game.
[13:50.46] <+PrezPusyGrab> no one knows what this idiot is referring to, because he's just delusional
[13:50.53] <+OldMole> I have never....not once...EVER...heard anything of the sort, from any healthcare worker, ever
[13:50.57] <+gannon> if we were in the middle east this lunatic would be a jihadi - he'd have an AK-47 and a long trail of dead bodies in his wake, killed for blasphemy and other grievous sins
[13:51.01] <+Deanr`> OldMole: I don't believe you.
[13:51.08] <+OldMole> who gives a shit what you believe
[13:51.22] * Deanr` shrugs.
[13:51.23] <+gannon> I don't respect dangerous psychopathic imbeciles
[13:51.24] <+PrezPusyGrab> lol gannon said something relevant
[13:51.29] <+Bathsheba`> he's delusional
[13:51.46] <+gannon> this diseased freak would murder doctors and women who get abortions
[13:51.53] <+gannon> he'd murder gays and muslims
[13:52.11] <+PrezPusyGrab> yes, he's definitely said he would support the government enslaving and gassing the gays
[13:52.14] <+Bathsheba`> Deanr`: is that true...you really said that ????
[13:52.17] <+Deanr`> Christians know that what's next after they die.
[13:52.32] <+gannon> he thinks this is what being moral is
[13:52.36] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: he can't see what I say, but ask him if he thinks the government executing gays would be justified, he'll say yes.
[13:52.42] <+gannon> and he thinks he's blessed and special in the universe for believing these things
[13:52.49] <+gannon> nothing is more unhinged than this
[13:52.52] <+Deanr`> non-Christians fear death... and typcially die in despair.
[13:52.54] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: I'm sure he wouldn't be opposed to camps and gas showwers for them, this guy is fucking nuts.
[13:53.09] <+Bathsheba`> Deanr`: I asked you something????
[13:53.18] <+JustBeKalm> He sounds like Hitler.
[13:53.21] <+gannon> there's literally zero evidence for that lol
[13:53.30] <+gannon> something his prison pastor told him
[13:53.42] <+Deanr`> anyway, this life's pain experience can't be compared to the future experience of the Christian.
[13:53.42] <+JustBeKalm> Only a nazi would think that way.
[13:53.51] <+Deanr`> this is what brings them peace.
[13:53.56] <+PrezPusyGrab> mass murder brings Deanr` peace
[13:53.56] <+JustBeKalm> If he thinks his god would approve of that, he can keep this god.
[13:53.59] <+OldMole> let me posit a theory....lets say Christianity is 100% real, and the Devil is 100% real...it would make sense for the Devil to send Deanr to discredit Christian faith like this. I'm sure he has ensured many people will never ever seriously consider Christianity again.
[13:54.21] <+Bathsheba`> ppl then he's potential serial killer
[13:54.28] <+Bathsheba`> thats obvious
[13:54.38] <+gannon> the worst, most evil people become "born again"
[13:54.43] <+PrezPusyGrab> yes, Deanr` is fucking psychotic
[13:54.55] <+Bathsheba`> wouldn't be the first one with this mind asset
[13:55.00] <+OldMole> if non-christians fear death, explain islamic suicide bombers
[13:55.15] <+PrezPusyGrab> "Satan"
[13:55.27] <+gannon> older "born again" religious zealots like MDeanr` are usually complete pieces of shit as human beings, whose past is a litany of disastrous decisions like drug abuse and prison. Finally they found a cult that promised them a sense of redemption and purpose and moral clarity and they use it to bludgeon others with new found sanctimony. Absolute human garbage.
[13:55.35] <+JustBeKalm> OldMole, good question. Apparently they are not saved, but don't seem to fear death.
[13:55.51] <+JustBeKalm> Or all those who are not just Christians who commit suicide.
[13:56.04] <+OldMole> or buddhist monks who meditate while dying
[13:56.05] <+Deanr`> "For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord." --Rom 8:38-39
[13:56.11] <+Bathsheba`> zealots are storie from themselves...they are even ruthless to themselves......sick....
[13:56.21] <+OldMole> or people who beg for euthanasia
[13:56.28] <+PrezPusyGrab> wait, evidence and facts? Fuck that, I have a verse from the Good Book!
[13:56.32] <+Debaser> Didn't Christians charge senselessly into battle during the crusades because of this being at peace with death thing
[13:56.37] <+Debaser> Maybe there's something to it
[13:56.44] <+gannon> their sociopathy evolves from violent criminal behavior to hectoring and threatening unbelievers by posturing as moral authorities
[13:56.55] <+PrezPusyGrab> Deanr`: yeah same as soldiers given meth
[13:57.01] <+PrezPusyGrab> Debaser: *
[13:57.19] <+Bathsheba`> Debaser: that's politics cmon ....not dogma
[13:57.42] <+OldMole> I dont know why he think some random quote from Paul is going to somehow reinforce any of his ridiculous assertions
[13:58.18] <+PrezPusyGrab> because he thinks the bible is proof that the bible is true, and thus absolute, contrary to any evidence, he's a fucking dumbass.
[13:58.44] <+PrezPusyGrab> You can see in real life examples of him being wrong, but none of that matters, he has to be right because of a bible passage.
[13:58.50] <+JustBeKalm> I never knew any christian who tried to prove the bible is true by using the bible...lol.
[13:58.54] <+JustBeKalm> That's really out there.
[13:58.56] <+OldMole> Deanr` is there any hypothetical proof that would disprove Christianity?
[13:59.02] <+PrezPusyGrab> JustBeKalm: thats all of them
[13:59.20] <+JustBeKalm> PrezPusyGrab, maybe. It's so insane.
[13:59.22] <+Bathsheba`> PrezPusyGrab: I surely know he's not Catholic that's fir sure ...some sect probably
[13:59.31] <+Bathsheba`> for*
[13:59.36] <+PrezPusyGrab> Bathsheba`: probably southern baptist, thats where the real crazies are.
[13:59.39] <+OldMole> hes a Calvinist of some stripe
[13:59.46] <+OldMole> i forget which
[14:00.33] <+Deanr`> “For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.” (Romans 8:18,)
[14:00.42] <+OldMole> Imagine having to go to church with this guy and pretend hes not a complete jackass
[14:00.42] <+PrezPusyGrab> lol
[14:01.01] <+OldMole> hes in full bible bot mode now
[14:01.03] <+PrezPusyGrab> Do they even pretend? that's probably why he's been here all sunday
[14:01.15] <+JustBeKalm> I'm glad he's on ignore. I"m missing it.
[14:01.42] <+OldMole> PrezPusyGrab they have to pretend they love each other
[14:01.51] <+Bathsheba`> Calvinist yeah zealot option of Shorten Catholic Teaching
[14:01.53] <+OldMole> I bet deanr is sure half is Church is going to hell anyways
[14:02.07] <+OldMole> not "real" christians
[14:02.08] <+Bathsheba`> that's crippled religion shit
[14:02.14] <+PrezPusyGrab> OldMole: that's not true, plenty of christians are telling their pastors that jesus' teachings of love are too weak and that doesn't "work anymore"
[14:02.35] <+PrezPusyGrab> OldMole: ＋https://newrepublic.com/post/174950/christianity-today-editor-evangelicals-call-jesus-liberal-weak，
[14:02.35] <@Lard> [url] Christianity Today Editor: Evangelicals Call Jesus “Liberal” and “Weak” | The New Republic | newrepublic.com ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/23hq48jt， )
[14:02.48] <+OldMole> Jesus WAS kind of a pussy
[14:02.52] <+OldMole> its true
[14:04.05] <+Bathsheba`> yeah that's how I wouldn't wanted my man to be or look like .....not even mention mind asset....disgusting
[14:04.19] <+OldMole> mind asset?
[14:04.25] <+gannon> if heaven was real it would be filled with assholes like this clown
[14:04.26] <+Bathsheba`> yeah
[14:04.42] <+gannon> ex-cons, recovering drug addicts, trailer trash
[14:05.04] <+gannon> all the cool and interesting people, intellectuals, artists, down in hell
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[14:05.54] <@kritklmas> .voiceall
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[14:06.28] <@kritklmas> ok, shit is done for another 5 mins
[14:07.04] <+mgm17> IF there was a jesus
[14:07.05] <+Bathsheba`> i dont want crucifix...kritklmas
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[14:07.25] <@kritklmas> but then you can't talk
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[14:07.35] <+mgm17> its a nice fireside story... but "devine" .... ???
[14:07.44] * kritklmas sets mode +v Bathsheba` for #Gulag
[14:07.56] <+Bathsheba`> why +m
[14:08.00] <+JustBeKalm> We should ban reigious preaching here.
[14:08.08] <@kritklmas> sorry Bathsheba` I gotta put one on you, we're +m right now
[14:08.09] <+JustBeKalm> It's so rude and annoying.
[14:08.25] <+Bathsheba`> why +m kritklmas
[14:08.29] <@kritklmas> a troll
[14:08.36] <+Bathsheba`> +r is enough
[14:08.39] <+Debaser> what troll?
[14:08.41] <@kritklmas> trying to wear him out
[14:08.46] <+mgm17> all the religious stuff sounds like a maga chat
[14:08.49] <@kritklmas> that loser troll
[14:08.56] <+Debaser> i dont see him
[14:09.04] <@kritklmas> look at all the losers, losing guy
[14:09.14] <@kritklmas> he's not here atm
[14:09.18] <+Debaser> so...
[14:09.28] <@kritklmas> he'll be back then
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[14:09.55] <+Bathsheba`> yeah but +r is enough he wasn't logged in on X
[14:10.05] <+Debaser> Thanks
[14:10.14] <@kritklmas> he's been going by P1eatsdick or some such thing
[14:10.31] <+Bathsheba`> Debaser: it's your trol called Cleland
[14:10.40] <@kritklmas> lol, no not him
[14:10.48] <+Bathsheba`> with all respect...
[14:10.54] <+Debaser> Hah
[14:11.16] <@kritklmas> ah, the Wondertwin
[14:11.31] <+Debaser> Deanr`: is there any scientific study of how Christians die with a different demeanor or are we supposed to just take your word for it
[14:11.41] <+Bathsheba`> kritklmas sure he is ...no one repeat that much as Cleland
[14:12.05] <@kritklmas> Bathsheba` well, the guy I mean is someone else
[14:12.13] <+Bathsheba`> nopeee
[14:12.16] <+Bathsheba`> !!!
[14:12.21] <+Bathsheba`> I was here
[14:12.22] <@kritklmas> some OTHER troll
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[14:12.45] <@kritklmas> ok, all better
[14:13.04] <Bathsheba`> join/part ..flood and before that same bullshit as Cleland
[14:13.09] <Bathsheba`> :)
[14:13.31] <Bathsheba`> Debaser has personal trol lol
[14:13.36] <+mouses> oh shit
[14:13.42] <+mouses> is the space pope back
[14:13.42] <@kritklmas> hi mouses :)
[14:13.50] <@kritklmas> yup
[14:13.58] <Bathsheba`> mouses: hello beautiful
[14:14.03] <+mouses> Bathsheba`: hihi :)
[14:14.03] <@kritklmas> in the flesh
[14:14.19] <+mouses> had to totally format out a home desktop
[14:14.28] <+mouses> it was time consuming and stupid
[14:14.50] <+mouses> fuck needing one windows mmachine on the LAN
[14:15.14] <+JustBeKalm> Hi, mouses :)))
[14:15.20] <@kritklmas> omg Workgroups
[14:15.25] <@kritklmas> hate that shit
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[14:17.09] <+jayQueue> oh wow, ratbastard in #politics says I'm a leftist
[14:17.35] <Bathsheba`> here comes the troll again ...Falling on my head like a memory
[14:17.35] <Bathsheba`> Falling on my head like a new emotion
[14:17.46] <+jayQueue> all i said was that a chatter named Shep should take one for the team and go postal on the people he said he wanted dead
[14:17.47] <@kritklmas> if someone on IRC said it, it must be true ;)
[14:18.12] <Bathsheba`> kritklmas: what was that song ....
[14:18.25] <+mgm17> If RatBastard says something, you know its wrong
[14:18.28] <+payuirtuk> i believe everything that kritklmas says
[14:18.29] <+jayQueue> TALK to me... like nazis do...
[14:18.33] <@kritklmas> Here comes the Rain again by The Eurythmics
[14:18.59] <Bathsheba`> oh yes ...the rain.....I thought troll....
[14:19.07] <Bathsheba`> huh
[14:19.13] <@kritklmas> hehe
[14:19.30] <@kritklmas> you do an excellent Annie Lennox
[14:19.34] <+payuirtuk> sexcellent
[14:19.36] <Bathsheba`> wohoooo Jay has it !!!!!
[14:19.46] <Bathsheba`> 00:18:21 <25B100• jayQueue> TALK to me... like nazis do...
[14:20.01] <Bathsheba`> lol
[14:20.13] <Bathsheba`> oh boi you rocks
[14:20.13] <@kritklmas> <+payuirtuk> i believe everything that kritklmas says << as well you should :P
[14:20.13] <+chowder-pop> holy moly ＋https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1690633585529937920，
[14:20.14] <@Lard> [Twitter] Insider Paper (@TheInsiderPaper): WATCH: House exploded in Plum, Pennsylvania, Ring camera footage shows ⏎ ＋https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1690517001414885376/pu/vid/1280x720/nkUuc4T7m6fEvJco.mp4?tag=12， | 840 RTs | 3140 ♥s | Posted: 2023-08-13 - 07:57:11UTC
[14:20.19] <+HopesNotHere> .You LYING ISHONEST assholes have still not given proof for WHY that man was MURDERED by the FBI.
[14:20.32] <+chowder-pop> always check your gas lines folx
[14:20.33] <+payuirtuk> haha kritklmas :P
[14:21.43] <@kritklmas> what man?
[14:21.58] <Bathsheba`> wo0t?
[14:21.59] <+Deanr`> Debaser: if you have an hour to spare, this video is of a testimony of a dying person that might interest you. She's even Canadian. ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Ay0U3M4xQ，
[14:22.00] <@Lard> [YouTube] Dying Mother Gives Last Words - Life Changing - Rachel Barkey | 55m 20s | BRMinistries | 29,027 views
[14:22.06] <+GhostDog> The nice man in colorado
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[14:22.10] <+payuirtuk> ;)
[14:22.27] <@kritklmas> the Unibomber?
[14:22.48] <+GhostDog> Colorado no
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[14:22.55] <+GhostDog> The guy last week
[14:22.56] <Bathsheba`> Debaser: hahahahah.....you're entering true knowledge....seen what man advised you .....Canadian...imagine...lol
[14:22.59] <@kritklmas> oh
[14:23.04] <+payuirtuk> unibonger
[14:23.06] <@kritklmas> I hadn't heard
[14:23.06] <Bathsheba`> ohhh boiii
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[14:23.14] <+Debaser> Deanr` i am not interested in anecdotal data
[14:23.19] <+Debaser> do you have a study
[14:23.26] <+Debaser> preferably peer reviewed
[14:24.01] <+GhostDog> he had evidence Biden stole a pack of gum from the soda shop in 1948 so the fbi had him killed.
[14:24.19] <@kritklmas> well, it happens
[14:24.21] <+mgm17> and user uploads to YouTube aren't EVER motivated by click $$ ... sheesh
[14:24.33] <+GhostDog> or at least I assume that's what hnh believes
[14:24.36] <+mgm17> youtube is NOT very reliable
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[14:25.34] <Bathsheba`> the gathering
[14:25.37] <Bathsheba`> love it
[14:25.49] <Bathsheba`> the best show in town ...
[14:26.01] <@kritklmas> you know it
[14:26.33] <Bathsheba`> yup
[14:26.46] <+mgm17> I saw on PBS News were Iowa repup caucus is bogged down in What - About - Ism.... all they can do is focus on just how HB has "crimied too"
[14:26.46] <+Mantra> Eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we will surely die.. its pretty much the current generations attitude and not without justification
[14:27.09] <Bathsheba`> what ivee told ya
[14:27.29] <@kritklmas> :)
[14:27.32] <+Slayer78_> Hi
[14:27.36] <Bathsheba`> I miss tatyana lol
[14:27.41] <+mgm17> oh for gawd's sake... every generation though their's was the last
[14:27.49] <@kritklmas> Mantra there's even a Dave Matthews song
[14:27.51] <+bodegacat> Bathsheba` she will be back
[14:27.52] <Bathsheba`> Slayer78_: zdravo
[14:28.16] <+Slayer78_> Hi Bathsheba
[14:28.31] <Bathsheba`> you understood me ha ?
[14:28.34] <+GhostDog> Wow. MAGAs favorite movie of the year just became the 10th highest grossing film of the year.
[14:28.37] <Bathsheba`> Good!
[14:28.41] <+mgm17> Listen to Barry McGuire's "eve of destruction" from 1963
[14:29.24] <@kritklmas> everyone says the sky is falling... <shrug>
[14:29.29] <+Debaser> Deanr`: do you have an unbiased study confirming your claims?
[14:29.35] <+AAAman> Georgia prosecutors have text messages showing Trump and his team were behind the voting systems breach in Coffee County.
[14:29.38] <+Mantra> kritklmas it makes sense.. how can one conclude anything else ?
[14:29.46] <Bathsheba`> bodegacat: just that I can keep teasing debaser...I'm trying to put them together...
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[14:30.02] <@kritklmas> Mantra so be it then
[14:30.17] <+bodegacat> Bathsheba` hahah you like impossible tasks huh
[14:30.19] <+mgm17> lol... Deanr thinks his word IS gospel and he doesn't have to produce any real resouces for his crap
[14:30.29] <+Mantra> kritklmas that is the point to the eat drink and be merry part
[14:30.30] <+Debaser> hah
[14:30.34] <Bathsheba`> bodegacat: it seems so ...
[14:30.37] <+Debaser> Bathsheba` you're funny
[14:30.37] <+bodegacat> i wouldn't even date Tatyana and i have the lowest standards of any man on this channel
[14:30.47] <@kritklmas> Mantra I get it :)
[14:30.48] <+Slayer78_> Deanr is a better human being than a lot of folks here
[14:31.04] <+AAAman> Debaser-- That U Tube is 55 minutes
[14:31.06] <@kritklmas> lol
[14:31.08] <+Mantra> kritklmas good :)
[14:31.12] <Bathsheba`> bodegacat: they have the sparks...
[14:31.21] <Bathsheba`> you didn't see that
[14:31.22] <Bathsheba`> lol
[14:31.33] <+AAAman> t how Jesus can empower his followers in the midst of suffering! Rest In Peace in heaven, Rachel!
[14:31.36] <+bodegacat> ya i guess i miseed it
[14:31.49] <+Mantra> Slayer78_ you are the least to judge on who is a better human being.. " go kill yourself"
[14:31.58] <@kritklmas> Mantra no
[14:32.07] <@kritklmas> :)
[14:32.16] <@kritklmas> try not to do that please
[14:32.16] <+Slayer78_> Mantra: I disagree
[14:32.16] <+Mantra> kritklmas notice the quotes
[14:32.17] <+bodegacat> Slayer78_ wants people to kill themselves?
[14:32.19] <+AAAman> White supremacist extremists will remain the deadliest domestic terror threat to the United States, according to the Department of Homeland Security’s
[14:32.23] <Bathsheba`> Debaser: lol
[14:32.26] <@kritklmas> Mantra yes, I nmoticed
[14:32.39] <+mgm17> the gang who shouts "Worlds comming to an end" are usually the emotionall ill or emotionally immature. YOung ppl who are growing up realize just how much of life IS out of their control so it feels like the end
[14:32.57] <+jayQueue> Mantra: you should take advantage of a free consultation with MAID and follow their recommendations
[14:32.59] <+Mantra> kritklmas there you go..our better human being judge has cast it
[14:33.04] <+AAAman> Slayer78_-- What is Deanr` better for?
[14:33.09] <Bathsheba`> blah blah blah
[14:33.10] <@kritklmas> lol Mantra
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[14:33.48] <@kritklmas> I wish I had a maid, in a little uniform.
[14:33.53] <+Mantra> lol oh well what can one do..such people exist
[14:34.17] <+mgm17> chatters who refuse or can't produce resources to substanciate their wild claims are nothing but screen waste
[14:34.27] <+mgm17> they all usually get an iggy
[14:34.28] <Bathsheba`> kritklmas....and then what ...?
[14:34.50] <+jayQueue> niggies usin iggies like dey ciggies
[14:34.50] <@kritklmas> Bathsheba` and then my house would be cleaned :)
[14:35.06] <+bodegacat> oh, Slayer78_ wants mantra to kill himself
[14:35.09] <+Mantra> you got to laugh at people so important that they threaten with thier iggy and someone is supposed to be terrified of that punishment
[14:35.13] <Bathsheba`> kritklmas: that's disappointing...just that???
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[14:35.22] <+bodegacat> that's not a nice thing to say
[14:35.41] <+mgm17> figures, considering where he is use to chatting
[14:35.44] <@kritklmas> Bathsheba` I know where your mind is ;)
[14:35.55] <+mgm17> with characters like RatBastard and WiseOldMan
[14:36.08] <Bathsheba`> told ya he's a troll
[14:36.08] <@kritklmas> Bathsheba` not without her consent, anyway
[14:36.16] <Bathsheba`> upsssss
[14:36.21] <+Mantra> geez those are 2 characters out of a right wing nightmare bedtime story
[14:36.36] <+mgm17> bingo
[14:36.48] <+AAAman> Trump will still be front page this coming week
[14:36.50] <+JustBeKalm> So are we done with Sunday's sermon?
[14:37.05] <@kritklmas> \o/
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[14:37.23] <@kritklmas> praise Jesus, oh wait, we already did
[14:37.30] <+Mantra> AAAman Trump embraces being on the front page ..so much so nothign else matters to him
[14:37.33] <+mgm17> lol
[14:37.58] <+AAAman> +＋https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texts-trump-legal-team-georgia-voting-systems-breach_n_64d90bc3e4b063cc09750347，
[14:37.58] <@Lard> [url] Trump's Legal Team Linked To Georgia Voting Systems Breach: Report | HuffPost Latest News | ＋www.huffpost.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/246hcjb5， )
[14:38.08] <@kritklmas> and also God can kiss my newly shaved ass
[14:38.08] <Bathsheba`> Deanr` is praying
[14:38.25] <+JustBeKalm> Did you know Mary sucked Jesus dick?
[14:38.29] <Bathsheba`> kritklmas yuck
[14:38.33] <+JustBeKalm> He wasn't a virgin and had kids.
[14:38.38] <+JustBeKalm> He was a human.
[14:38.39] <+AAAman> Is Deanr` praying for Trump
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[14:38.51] <@kritklmas> oops, I mean God and I have come to an impasse.
[14:39.00] <+Mantra> Praying to trump is probably more accurate
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[14:39.21] <+JustBeKalm> Is Jesus the same being as Trump?
[14:39.25] <+mgm17> i mean there is NO god characters as in the formal religions
[14:40.00] <Bathsheba`> JustBeKalm: there is two Mary ...one mother ....and second reversed whore...which gave birth to Jesus childrens lol
[14:40.02] <+Mantra> Trump is any character ..it is the anti-christ
[14:40.13] <+Mantra> in that play he fits
[14:40.29] <@kritklmas> Bathsheba` careful about the slurs please :)
[14:40.35] <Bathsheba`> the noble lines of Catholic cardinals as they say
[14:40.39] <+mgm17> since I don't believe in christ, there too is no anti-christ
[14:40.54] <+Mantra> I that play was the operative phrase
[14:40.56] <+P-1> Mantra: ＋https://youtube.com/shorts/StwP6KcLq3s?feature=share，
[14:40.57] <@Lard> [YouTube] Man prays to Donald Trump | 46s | News and Reviews 4U | 0 views
[14:41.30] <+JustBeKalm> Bathsheba`, call hera promiscuous lady :)
[14:41.34] <Bathsheba`> kritklmas: I'm not a slur
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[14:41.53] <@kritklmas> don't use them in the channel Bathsheba`
[14:42.01] <+JustBeKalm> You can only call men whores in here.
[14:42.01] <Bathsheba`> JustBeKalm: agreed lol
[14:42.14] <Bathsheba`> oh boi
[14:42.16] <+Mantra> lol
[14:42.18] <+JustBeKalm> You're not allowed to insult women, but you can insult white men. It's fun!
[14:42.18] <+Mantra> geezus
[14:42.37] <+Mantra> I guess Trump god was on his Golden Throne reading some top secret documents
[14:42.42] <Bathsheba`> I didn't....she wasn't woman
[14:42.53] <+JustBeKalm> Haha, Bathsheba`.
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[14:43.39] <+Mantra> P-1 its hard to imagine that is real
[14:43.44] <+Mantra> but it is lol
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[14:45.10] <+P-1> oh yes.....you have to remember, the christian nationalists were told that trump is a divine prophet who was "sent by god" as "the chosen one"
[14:45.30] <@kritklmas> jeez, that's just laughable
[14:45.35] <+P-1> yep
[14:46.05] <+Slayer78_> P-1: absolutely ridiculous nonsense... but then again, some people said the same about Obama when first elected
[14:46.16] <+mgm17> laughable if not actually believed, then its scary P-1
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[14:46.52] <+gloops> no news from ukraine
[14:46.52] <+P-1> slayer: have you seen this? ＋https://youtube.com/shorts/StwP6KcLq3s?feature=share，
[14:46.52] <@Lard> [YouTube] Man prays to Donald Trump | 46s | News and Reviews 4U | 2 views
[14:46.59] <+chowder-pop> ＋https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7U65O7hX/rent-free.jpg，
[14:47.02] <+bodegacat> no one actually said Obama was a "divine prophet sent by god" stop making stuff up slayer
[14:47.14] <+gloops> Zelenskiy is burning summer up fast
[14:47.31] <+gloops> mid august
[14:47.38] <+Debaser> gloops: translate that into 'non stroke victim' talk for me
[14:47.45] <@kritklmas> lol
[14:47.51] <+Slayer78_> P-1: I don't want to see it
[14:47.54] <+bodegacat> ya he's decided it's better to expend time than it is to expend lives
[14:48.03] <+gloops> Debaser how would you understand it then?
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[14:48.14] <+Slayer78_> P-1: I just called such behavior ridiculous
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[14:48.37] <+gloops> Zelenskiy has maybe 1 month to get this shit done
[14:48.45] <+gloops> mud season is looming
[14:49.02] <@kritklmas> same is true for Putin
[14:49.07] <+chowder-pop> i want to see ukrainian women wrestle in mud
[14:49.08] <+P-1> ＋https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/02/18/how-christian-prophets-give-credence-to-trumps-election-fantasies-469598，
[14:49.10] <@Lard> [url] The Christian Prophets Who Say Trump Is Coming Again - POLITICO | ＋www.politico.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/ybpca8a8， )
[14:49.14] <+gloops> Putin doesnt have to move
[14:49.19] <+Mantra> Slayer78_ no you did not stop there.. you tried your equivocation bullshit
[14:49.26] <+Mantra> so you can hang on to your trump swag
[14:49.31] <@kritklmas> gloops he has to hold ground
[14:49.42] <+Slayer78_> Mantra: what? Are you in fucking heroin?
[14:49.54] <+Mantra> no what are you on
[14:50.10] <+Mantra> clearly nothing anyone should touch trumper from canuck
[14:50.14] <+Mantra> land
[14:50.21] <+Slayer78_> Mantra: bye
[14:50.32] <+gloops> kritklmas hes dug in behind miles of mines, can sit there forever
[14:50.35] <+Mantra> oooh
[14:50.47] <+chowder-pop> mantra has been way more incoherent than usual lately
[14:50.51] <@kritklmas> gloops ok whatever
[14:50.52] <+gloops> this is a very angry channel
[14:51.01] <+Mantra> another one full of himself and the tragedy of losing his Canadian Trumpism
[14:51.05] <+Slayer78_> Hi chowder-pop
[14:51.16] <+chowder-pop> Slayer78_: might not be drugs, he might have had a stroke or some other medical issue... that was happening with cosimo and mechanicos towards the end
[14:51.17] <@kritklmas> gloops #gulag is the best show in town.
[14:51.23] <+Mantra> chowder-pop only to people who do not know Slayer78_ who is a canadian trumper
[14:51.41] <+gloops> kritklmas, without wishing to offend, almost everyone here is mentally ill
[14:51.45] <+Slayer78_> Meh
[14:51.46] <+Mantra> or if you want right wing republican lost in the Canadian wilderness
[14:52.02] * chowder-pop is now known as bastion
[14:52.08] <+Mantra> ah bastion
[14:52.12] <+gloops> lol
[14:52.13] <+Mantra> now it comes clear lol
[14:52.16] <+Slayer78_> gloops: which is why its good to limit your time here
[14:52.24] <@kritklmas> gloops then I would hate to see you trying to be offensive
[14:52.33] <+gloops> yes that is good advice Slayer78_
[14:52.44] <+gloops> we are gazing into the abyss here
[14:52.52] <@kritklmas> says the guy who parks here every dayu
[14:52.54] <+Debaser> gloops: how is zelensky 'burning up summer'
[14:53.03] <@kritklmas> every day
[14:53.04] <+Debaser> Should he order his troops into minefields?
[14:53.31] <+Slayer78_> So do you, last I checked
[14:53.34] <+bastion> i mostly only stop by to post important links
[14:53.37] <+gloops> Debaser zelenskiy is working to a timeframe
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[14:53.45] <+gloops> most of which is now behind him
[14:53.52] <+Mantra> Putin has one aim.. to kill as many russians by sending them to the front till the Ukraine runs out of people defending the front
[14:54.01] <@kritklmas> Slayer78_ I'm not the one whining about being here too much
[14:54.12] * kritklmas sets mode +v ^skunk`` for #Gulag
[14:54.17] <+Mantra> simply put Putin would kill 5 million russians to kill 5 million ukrainians or 2 million
[14:54.49] <+bastion> looks like putin has been killing off lowlifes and prisoners so far
[14:54.56] <@kritklmas> lol
[14:54.56] <+gloops> this is like a soccer match where youre 4 goals behind and theres 6 minutes left to play
[14:54.58] <+bastion> from russia I mean
[14:55.03] <+bastion> win-win for them
[14:55.14] <+gloops> in theory you *could* still win...but
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[14:55.22] <+Mantra> bastion yes we are sure you know millions of russians sent to the front.. if only we could send you
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[14:55.29] <+Mantra> what a shallow bastard
[14:56.00] <+bastion> both ukrainian and russian expat live-in maids will be a buyer's market
[14:56.02] <+gloops> true to form, russia got off to a very shakey start
[14:56.04] <+Slayer78_> kritklmas: nor I, if only you could read English properly
[14:56.06] <+bodegacat> it's not like a soccer game at all. in a soccer game, both teams play to rules where they agree on a time limit. there's no agreed upon time limit for russia's invasion
[14:56.20] <+bastion> for many years to come
[14:56.23] <+gloops> but russia is getting into stride now
[14:56.36] <+AAAman> “Support Donald Trumps Patriot Legal Defense Fund,” t
[14:56.50] <@kritklmas> ok Slayer78_ what did you actually say? <+Slayer78_> gloops: which is why its good to limit your time here
[14:56.53] <+Mantra> you mean by killing everyone russians and ukrainians and knowing russia has more people to kill
[14:57.03] <+Mantra> that is gloops idea of getting into it
[14:57.08] <+Relics> To all the women supporting ROE being overturned . . . I hope your husband's side chick gets pregnant.
[14:57.15] <@kritklmas> Slayer78_ whining about being here too much.
[14:57.18] <+Slayer78_> kritklmas: that's what I said
[14:57.29] <+gloops> bodegacat zelenskiy has this summer to achieve something impressive
[14:57.41] <@kritklmas> Slayer78_ you know where the exit is
[14:57.43] <+Slayer78_> kritklmas: you're misreading me... gloops is smart, he understood its just advice
[14:57.44] <+Relics> German Chancellor Olaf Scholz believes that diplomatic efforts are needed to end the war in Ukraine
[14:57.45] <+gloops> allied interest will dwindle if he doesnt come up with something
[14:57.46] <+bodegacat> there will be another summer next year
[14:57.51] <+bodegacat> and another summer the year after that
[14:58.07] <+Mantra> Relics what would that do for you ? why would you want more unwanted children born to such people as some "side chick" or the person who fathers the side unwanted child ?
[14:58.19] <+gloops> there will be another summer but i doubt there will be another ukrainian counter offensive army
[14:58.22] <+Slayer78_> kritklmas: you on the other hand are fucking stupid
[14:58.48] <@kritklmas> right Slayer78_ based on your measure.
[14:59.05] <@kritklmas> <shrug>
[14:59.11] <+gloops> yeah scholz is tiring of this farce
[14:59.13] <@kritklmas> you're a fucking genius
[14:59.16] <+gloops> germany wants the gas back on
[14:59.21] <+Relics> Mantra don't take it literally.
[14:59.22] <+GhostDog> It's weird that there are people who have unwanted children while I wanted one but never got one.
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[14:59.31] <+bodegacat> there's no reason for ukrainian army to disband until a peace agreement has been implemented
[14:59.31] <+bastion> gloops: you know what happens when you give germans too much gas
[14:59.33] * kritklmas sets mode +v vulcan for #Gulag
[14:59.36] <+bastion> gloops: they start getting strange ideas
[14:59.47] <+Mantra> Relics who should one take it ?
[14:59.52] <+gloops> bastion old habits die hard
[15:00.05] <+bodegacat> pretty sure the "counteroffensive" army will be sticking around until either ukraine is liberated, or they are killed.
[15:00.42] <+Mantra> what will russia win.. the love of the ukrainains they intend to rule ?
[15:00.42] <+gloops> bodegacat ukraine hasnt got an infinite number of men, the west will not keep throwing billions into this hole for no return
[15:00.46] <+bodegacat> and they'll only get killed if they enter combat, which is not happening
[15:00.52] <+bastion> I didn’t even have to use my AK
[15:01.03] <+vulcan> gloops agreed
[15:01.10] <+Mantra> I magine being a russian walking down a ukraine street if Russia did ever get to claim ukraine
[15:01.22] <+^skunk``> if u support trump u support russia how pathetic
[15:01.25] <+Mantra> the russians are forever hated by ukrainians now
[15:01.33] <+gloops> if ukraine cant do anything now, with all the money and training and weapons its had this year
[15:01.35] <+vulcan> ^skunk``: BS
[15:01.36] <+gloops> it never will
[15:01.40] <+Mantra> so they cannot rule without killing almost all ukranians
[15:01.44] <+bastion> Mantra: a pretty big chunk of the population already is ethnically Russian
[15:01.48] <+^skunk``> vulcan u a maga ?
[15:01.55] <+bodegacat> ukraine will have more training and more weapons later
[15:01.55] <+Mantra> and they will be ruling a wasteland and forever disdain
[15:01.56] <+vulcan> ^skunk``: yep
[15:01.59] <Bathsheba`> I hate them both ....and so ...
[15:02.06] <Bathsheba`> wtf
[15:02.07] <@kritklmas> bastion wow a Putin shill
[15:02.14] <+^skunk``> u support russia or ukraine mr vulacn?
[15:02.21] <+JustBeKalm> Hi, vulcan :)
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[15:02.37] <+vulcan> ^skunk``: russia did a bad thing
[15:02.44] <+vulcan> JBK hello :)
[15:02.49] <+Slayer78_> kritklmas: point being, you reflected your own desire onto my words rather than reading them black on white
[15:02.52] <+Jeremy> kritklmas have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues can you bend them guitar strings?
[15:02.55] <+Mantra> bastion most are not russians and the ones who were are ukrianian in practice .. as much as italians or germans are american
[15:02.58] <+Slayer78_> ^skunk``: neither
[15:03.00] <+^skunk``> great that u acknowledge that russia is bad
[15:03.12] <+bastion> Mantra: not really dude
[15:03.15] <@kritklmas> Jeremy like-a ringin' a bell
[15:03.16] <+Slayer78_> 'Russia is bad mk'
[15:03.18] <+Mantra> really dude
[15:03.19] <+Jeremy> ha
[15:03.20] <+^skunk``> russia invaded ukraine, its as simple as that
[15:03.28] <+bastion> Mantra: their voting was even way different
[15:03.28] <+vulcan> ^skunk``: I support helping Ukraine to an extent, its tough
[15:03.40] <+Jeremy> no kidding ^skunk``?
[15:03.44] <+gloops> Ukraine is now the most heavily mined country on Earth and its army is suffering from a critical shortage of men and equipment able to clear the frontlines, the country’s defence minister has said, as soldiers spoke of heavy casualties in the engineering brigades.
[15:03.47] <+Jeremy> wow
[15:03.53] <+Jeremy> i'm glad you're here to inform us
[15:03.57] <+gloops> this is just a tar baby
[15:04.00] <Bathsheba`> vulcan why don't you go there to provide real support to ukraine
[15:04.02] <+^skunk``> jeremy no further argument
[15:04.07] <+^skunk``> case closed
[15:04.09] <+Mantra> bastion yes we know what putin claims.. they all want to be russian that is why the left to live in the ukraine
[15:04.09] <+gloops> the harder ukraine hits russia the more stuck it gets
[15:04.11] <+bastion> Mantra: the areas Russia is occupying now always voted for the Russia-friendly candidate by pretty big margins
[15:04.15] <+^skunk``> and jeermeyn fork off
[15:04.19] <+vulcan> Bathsheba`: I am too old
[15:04.23] <+bastion> Mantra: you can look all this up for yourself
[15:04.33] <Bathsheba`> vulcan: you would go???
[15:04.38] <+Mantra> bastion but of course always remember what Long SHanks said... if we cannot get them out we will breed them out
[15:04.41] <+bodegacat> bastion the areas Russia is occupying voted for Zelensky as president by an overwhelming margin
[15:04.43] <+vulcan> Bathsheba`: I would not go
[15:04.51] <+^skunk``> jeremy corbyn no doubt
[15:04.55] <+Mantra> bastion you are on the wrong side of history and anything called moral
[15:04.58] <Bathsheba`> vulcan: okay
[15:05.02] <@kritklmas> lol @ 'Longshanks'
[15:05.08] <+vulcan> Bathsheba`: I didnt want to go to vietnam either :)
[15:05.13] <+Mantra> ;)
[15:05.21] <+^skunk``> hitler also invaded ukraine
[15:05.21] <+Mantra> ultimate quote
[15:05.30] <@kritklmas> totally
[15:05.30] <+^skunk``> putin is hitler
[15:05.32] <+bastion> Mantra: I don’t have any dog in the fight, I want the us out of it. I’m just pointing out what you’re wrong about
[15:05.34] <Bathsheba`> vulcan: okies...that old huh
[15:05.37] <+bodegacat> 85% of voters in Donbas chose to elect the guy who said "I don't need a ride, i need ammunition" and has dedicated himself to expelling russian invaders.
[15:05.51] <+Debaser> bastion doesnt know what he is talking about? i am shocked
[15:05.53] <+vulcan> just curious, does the average young russian want to fight in Ukraine?
[15:05.58] <+bastion> Mantra: not that you actually care about what’s true
[15:06.04] <+vulcan> Bathsheba`: I am older than the hills
[15:06.14] <+^skunk``> russians tried to get out of the country when the war started
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[15:06.19] <+^skunk``> they ddnt want to fight
[15:06.21] <@kritklmas> Tom Bombadil
[15:06.26] <+bodegacat> vulcan i think the exodus of about a million average young russians when conscription was announced, gives us the answer to that question
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[15:06.35] <+Slayer78_> I'm out
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[15:06.38] <Bathsheba`> vulcan: that's okay :)
[15:06.38] <+Mantra> bastion context makes you wrong.. just as Crimea was made attractive for Russians to cross that bridge and claim home.. or do you not get Putins way steeped in Russian expansion from czars to stalin
[15:06.42] <+vulcan> bodegacat: agree and thanks
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[15:06.56] <@kritklmas> lol
[15:07.07] <+^skunk``> putin doesnt care about sending young men to their deaths
[15:07.28] <+^skunk``> he runs a mafia govt
[15:07.36] <+Relics> Zelensky doesn't care about sending grandpa to their deaths
[15:07.43] <+bodegacat> When Ukraine consistently disables the Crimean bridge, we'll see how attractive russians find it
[15:07.44] <+^skunk``> its all about his wealth
[15:07.49] <+^skunk``> putin looted russia
[15:07.58] <+Mantra> Relics grandpa gives his life for home and country..
[15:08.03] <+^skunk``> relics fork off
[15:08.08] <+Mantra> Relics what is russia fighting for ?
[15:08.13] <+Relics> Mantra actually they are conscripted
[15:08.20] <+Mantra> taking anothers home and country
[15:08.23] <+mouses> putin makes elon look poor
[15:08.35] <+Mantra> Relics russians certainly are conscripted
[15:08.45] <+gloops> kerch bridge seems too heavily defended now
[15:08.50] <+gloops> that boat has sailed
[15:08.53] <+vulcan> maybe he needs to be put out of his misery
[15:08.54] <+mouses> mostly prisoners from what I heard?
[15:08.54] <+Relics> Mantra if you had read Putin's statement on the SMO, and not western news you would know what Russia is fighting for
[15:09.01] * vulcan posts it in a safe way
[15:09.01] <+Mantra> bodegacat the bridge should be attacked over and over by ukraine in any way they can
[15:09.02] <+bodegacat> Zelensky regularly visits soldiers at the front line to talk to them, give them medals, and honour the fallen dead. Shut up with this "Zelensky doesn't care garbage" you're an idiot.
[15:09.04] <+Mantra> and it will be
[15:09.29] <+mouses> bodegacat: ✊
[15:09.32] <+bodegacat> Putin cowers in his bunker at the end of a 30' long table, sending his body-doubles out to staged photo ops far away from any danger. That's who doesn't care.
[15:09.54] <+Mantra> exactly
[15:10.03] <+Relics> After opposing every effort to investigation the Biden corruption scandal, Rep. Jamie Raskin admitted that Hunter “did a lot of really unlawful and wrong things.” Yet, Raskin and his colleagues still are demanding an end of further investigations in the Biden corruption scandal.
[15:10.05] <+Mantra> Putin is hunkered in his bunker
[15:10.14] <+^skunk``> relics is an incel.
[15:10.36] <+Mantra> Relics Trump Trumps hunter majorly
[15:10.54] <+gloops> it doesnt look like ukraine is capable of taking down the bridge, idd lucky hit maybe, theres not much chance of a fatal combination of strikes though
[15:10.59] <+bodegacat> Mantra well i imagine their ability to attack the bridge is limited both by their ammo/manpower/etc. and also by the fact that russians respond and set up defenses after every attack. So they probably need to gain control of coastline to be able to consistently disable the bridge.
[15:11.04] <+gloops> it didnt happen, thats that
[15:11.14] <+^skunk``> gloops take your meds
[15:11.16] <@kritklmas> lol
[15:11.45] <Bathsheba`> I hate this gloops
[15:11.50] <Bathsheba`> :(
[15:11.51] <+gloops> its the biggest bridge in th fucking world, ukraine has smart missiles from uk, drone boats, what ever
[15:11.55] <+gloops> they still cant hit it
[15:12.14] <@kritklmas> Bathsheba` is there a gloops you like?
[15:12.17] <+^skunk``> gloops the doc told u to take your meds before u go on irc. Listen to him
[15:12.18] <+Mantra> bodegacat attacking a bridge is much easier than defending it
[15:12.22] <+vulcan> can they hit the broad side of a barn
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[15:12.28] <+Relics> The attacks on the Kerch Bridge by Ukraine, is a last ditch effert after the 70 day old Ukrainian Counter-Offensive has failed to make any significant progress.
[15:12.31] <+gloops> the bridge is bristling with s-400/500
[15:12.41] <Bathsheba`> yeah kritklmas married to putin
[15:12.47] <Bathsheba`> that one I like
[15:12.55] <@kritklmas> heh, ok
[15:12.58] <+Mantra> would you cross that bridge lol
[15:13.01] <+Mantra> I doubt it
[15:13.04] <@kritklmas> no accounting for taste
[15:13.15] <+Relics> Ukraine is doing a ground counter-offensive without air power. That is doomed to fail
[15:13.27] <+gloops> yes that is true Relic
[15:13.29] <+gloops> s
[15:13.46] <+gloops> nobody ever broke through without air cover
[15:13.52] <+P-1> Putin and kim jung un were able to play trump like a fiddle.....or in his case, a diddle
[15:13.54] <+mouses> bodegacat IRL ＋https://lounge.mouses.xyz/uploads/85b132cbbdf009ef/image.png，
[15:14.03] <+bodegacat> relics it's not doomed, it's just slower difficult and more expensive on the manpower
[15:14.06] <+seeker> CATZIRRA!!!
[15:14.12] <+Mantra> Ukraine is going to get planes
[15:14.15] <+Mantra> and air cover
[15:14.17] <+^skunk``> gloops u and n korea suport putin u make a good couple
[15:14.20] <+mouses> lol seeker hihihih
[15:14.23] <+bodegacat> relics we've seen ukraine recover plenty of ground without air power
[15:14.27] <+seeker> hi mousey :)
[15:14.35] <@kritklmas> hi seeker :)
[15:14.35] <+seeker> have you been playing Baldur's Gate 3
[15:14.39] <+seeker> hi kritklmas :D
[15:14.43] <+Relics> bodegacat "expensive on the manpower" is a euphemism for losing troops
[15:14.45] <+payuirtuk> butts
[15:14.46] <Bathsheba`> USA cooked the meal for European allays and the stupid ones went there to die ....
[15:14.51] <+seeker> butts :D
[15:15.00] <Bathsheba`> seeker hello
[15:15.03] <+^skunk``> relics is a maga who loves russia
[15:15.03] <+Mantra> and of course Russia has no air cover as they avoid overflying ukrain like teh plague as they are shot down regularly
[15:15.07] <+Mantra> they only send missiles
[15:15.14] <+Mantra> or drones
[15:15.17] <+seeker> hi Bathsheba` :) hope you're well
[15:15.17] <+^skunk``> only prob is n korea also loves russia hahah
[15:15.21] <+bodegacat> relics yes, attacking without airpower causes more deaths to the attackers
[15:15.22] <@kritklmas> Bathsheba` I guess that's one interpretation of events
[15:15.42] <+seeker> sending my best vibes your way
[15:15.42] <Bathsheba`> seeker: ...don't hold that hope
[15:15.47] <Bathsheba`> thanks
[15:15.48] <+seeker> understood
[15:16.08] <Bathsheba`> kritklmas it is and it's truth
[15:16.17] <@kritklmas> ok then.
[15:16.20] <+bodegacat> relics but people keep insisting "russia will win because it has unlimited manpower" which of course is untrue, it just has a lot of manpower, but no one seems worried about russia losing hundreds of thousands of soldiers
[15:16.23] <+seeker> then take the vibes perhaps this minor IRC elixir can slightly soothe the scathing heat of anguish
[15:16.28] <@kritklmas> I'll agree to disagree
[15:16.43] <+Mantra> Russia has no aircover lol
[15:16.53] <+Mantra> they are shot down like ducks in a pond
[15:16.55] <+bodegacat> So "doomed to failure" has already been disproven in this very war.
[15:17.00] <+gloops> its more likely russia will break out and take Kharkiv
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[15:17.07] <+Relics> bodegacat I have only seen 1 person claim Russia has unlimited manpower. And that is you
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[15:17.13] <+enometh`> cleland
[15:17.18] <+Mantra> where is russian air cover thy putinista idiots ?
[15:17.22] <+bodegacat> relics i just said the very opposite actually, if you read what i wrote
[15:17.30] <+mgm17> I'm sick of a lifetime of russian insanities... tear down that wall !!
[15:17.36] <+gloops> russia has about 150 alligator choppers
[15:17.42] <+gloops> tank busters
[15:17.44] <+Mantra> lol
[15:17.48] <+Mantra> oooh tank busters
[15:17.50] <+^skunk``> gloops is an incel
[15:17.55] <+Mantra> being shot out of the sky
[15:17.55] <+gloops> also has air to air missiles
[15:17.55] <+seeker> when there's something wrong
[15:17.55] <+Relics> bodegacat who has said Russia has unlimited manpower........... other than you?
[15:17.57] <+seeker> in eastern europe
[15:17.58] <+bodegacat> relics others online have been insisting that Russia cannot lose its invasion because they believe it will throw millions of soldiers to their death to ensure it happens. I doubt that
[15:17.59] <+seeker> who ya gonna call
[15:18.00] <+Mantra> lol
[15:18.01] <+seeker> TANK BUSTERS
[15:18.08] <@kritklmas> lol
[15:18.10] <+Mantra> but they are just holding back those aircraoft
[15:18.14] <+Mantra> hold them back
[15:18.14] <+bodegacat> relics i never said russia has unlimited manpower, i said the opposite. please stop lying.
[15:18.17] <+Mantra> you know..
[15:18.26] <+vulcan> its not safe being a tank driver in Ukraine
[15:18.28] <+gloops> no need to deploy weapons needlessly
[15:18.34] <+Mantra> lol
[15:18.34] <+seeker> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdyU_gW6WE， I ain't afraid of no sleep
[15:18.35] <@Lard> [YouTube] Bustin | 4m 7s | Neil Cicierega | 16,292,721 views
[15:18.37] <Bathsheba`> seeker: lol
[15:18.45] <+gloops> there are several alligators behind the lines in the south
[15:18.45] <+Relics> bodegacat who are the people saying Russia has unlimited manpower?
[15:18.47] <+seeker> :)
[15:18.56] <Bathsheba`> Good one lol
[15:19.05] <+gloops> and i mean
[15:19.07] <+Relics> On 25 May 2003, a Boeing 727-223 airliner, registered N844AA, was stolen at Quatro de Fevereiro Airport in Luanda, Angola,[1] prompting a worldwide search by law enforcement intelligence agencies in the United States. No trace of the aircraft has since been found.
[15:19.14] <+gloops> how does this look ?
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[15:19.19] <+mgm17> lol... NO ONE offers any resources to substanciate claims here..
[15:19.22] <+bodegacat> Relics i don't remember specific people now.
[15:19.26] <@kritklmas> lol
[15:19.28] <+Relics> bodegacat ok
[15:19.30] <+gloops> fucking USA, Britain, NATO - cant even break through a russian line
[15:19.47] <+gloops> cant take out a bridge
[15:19.50] <+Mantra> gloops when did they get into the fight ?
[15:19.52] <@kritklmas> lol gloops USA isn't fighting
[15:19.54] <+gloops> its fucking amateur
[15:20.02] <+Mantra> oh wait you are too goddam stupid to understand
[15:20.02] <Bathsheba`> gloops: what Britain you're delusional
[15:20.07] <@kritklmas> Nato isn't fighting
[15:20.08] <+gloops> we're backing ukraine arent we
[15:20.16] <+bodegacat> Relics it's been a while, but there were a few people who kept saying "Look at germany invading russia, russia sacrificed millions of soldiers to defeat the invasion" as a parallel to how they expect ukraine invasion to work.
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[15:20.21] <@kritklmas> backing is NOT fighting
[15:20.23] <Bathsheba`> kritklmas: sure it does
[15:20.24] <+seeker> yorkshire tea to the front lines
[15:20.26] <+Mantra> gloops not with troops maniac
[15:20.26] <+gloops> China is lapping this up
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[15:53.00] Topic: ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekeq4szDmJo，
[15:53.00] Channel Topic Set by: OldMole on 5:17 AM 8/13/2023
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[15:53.00] <@kritklmas> 94
[15:53.06] <wptmj> hi gulagers
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[15:53.14] <+vulcan> kritklmas: you've been here forever too
[15:53.20] <+vick> year i graduated high school
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[15:53.26] <+vick> 94
[15:53.30] <wptmj> hi gulagers
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[15:54.46] <@kritklmas> :)
[15:54.55] <@kritklmas> that IS what we are
[15:55.07] <@kritklmas> gulagians
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[15:56.17] <+seeker> hooligan gulagans
[15:56.39] <+vulcan> why am I thinking of Clockwork Orange
[15:56.42] <+seeker> hailing from the great land of Gulagia
[15:56.47] <+vick> i don't have foreskin
[15:56.56] <@kritklmas> vulcan on and off but yes, been here in Undernet for a long time
[15:57.14] * seeker practices the ludovico technique
[15:57.20] <+vulcan> is foreskin the topic
[15:57.28] <+^skunk``> the word hooligan comes from an irish family the o'hooligans
[15:57.36] <+seeker> the topic is whatever you make it!
[15:57.44] <+^skunk``> a rowdy family that lived in London
[15:57.51] <+Relics> There are 93 people (and counting) dead and Lahaina residents cannot even grieve the loss of their loved ones without worrying about big land developers coming in and taking over their Maui town. There is nothing more evil on this earth than Western capitalism and imperialism.
[15:58.14] <+^skunk``> the world gulag comes from an acronym in russia
[15:58.19] <@kritklmas> vick, tmi buddy :)
[15:58.24] <+vick> was there a tornado there
[15:58.28] <+vulcan> seeker: Relics wants to discuss capitalism
[15:58.36] <+seeker> you know what they say, Western capitalism and imperialism may not be perfect, but it's the best system we've got!
[15:58.44] <+seeker> no point in trying to improve anything!
[15:58.48] <@kritklmas> and I mean vick this time
[15:58.55] <+Debaser> oh did decke/zeno find a new nick
[15:58.56] <+vick> ha
[15:59.04] <+Debaser> took me a while to catch it
[15:59.10] <+^skunk``> who is zeno now ?
[15:59.17] <+Debaser> relics, it seems
[15:59.25] <+seeker> a spectre is haunting the Gulag, the spectre of Zeno
[15:59.29] <+vulcan> Relics capitalism will rebuild Hawaii island Maui
[15:59.32] <+^skunk``> oh black and decker
[15:59.36] <+^skunk``> tools
[15:59.39] <@kritklmas> Debaser yeah Decker was a new one
[16:00.07] <+vick> would you prefer socialism relics
[16:00.42] <+vick> venezuela is looking for a few good men i hear
[16:00.51] <@kritklmas> lol
[16:01.01] <+seeker> you can't handle el truth
[16:01.09] <@kritklmas> :)
[16:01.22] <+vulcan> what was n ame of that movie
[16:01.28] <+vick> barbie
[16:01.30] <@kritklmas> Jack Nicholson shouting!
[16:01.39] <@kritklmas> lol
[16:01.41] <+seeker> a few good men, vulcan
[16:01.46] <+vulcan> thanks
[16:02.01] <@kritklmas> oh yeah you gotta see it
[16:02.03] <+vick> one flew over the cuckoos nest?
[16:02.18] <@kritklmas> a later one but that's good too
[16:02.19] <+vulcan> vick a few good men
[16:02.22] <+vick> oh
[16:02.35] * seeker sends a copy of the bluray to venezuela
[16:02.37] <+seeker> there we go
[16:02.45] <+seeker> now they found it
[16:02.50] <+vick> i think i saw that
[16:02.59] <@kritklmas> Tom Cruise
[16:03.07] <@kritklmas> believe it or not
[16:03.19] <+seeker> that sort of behavior would never be permitted in an actual courtroom
[16:03.30] <@kritklmas> turns out, he's a really good actor
[16:03.47] <+seeker> also, I doubt they would just arrest a witness on the stand
[16:04.13] <+seeker> at least not without doing cross-examination first :D
[16:04.47] <+vulcan> bbl
[16:05.42] <+Relics> ＋https://youtube.com/shorts/avBWu2sNz0k?feature=share，
[16:05.43] <@Lard> [YouTube] Letter to my wife #mattberrycomedy #mikeandjoelle #boxingalleymike #husbandandwifecomedy #marriage | 58s | Mike & Joelle | 3,281,461 views
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[16:06.45] <@kritklmas> seeker Kevin Bacon waived it
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[16:11.28] <@kritklmas> I have work stuff, BBL
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[16:17.08] <+^skunk``> tina do u come from a land of down under ?
[16:17.44] <Tina`a> huevos rancheros
[16:17.53] <Tina`a> skunk, you know where I come from
[16:18.25] <Tina`a> but I do like that song
[16:20.30] <+^skunk``> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGLgu9QQJTo，
[16:20.31] <@Lard> [YouTube] "Down Under" by Colin Hay from Men At Work | 3m 58s | Gina Luciani | 3,573,370 views
[16:20.39] <+^skunk``> land of down under live in the us ..
[16:21.38] <+^skunk``> nice lady plays the flute
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[16:22.57] <Tina`a> thanks
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[16:23.19] <+Relics> ＋https://youtube.com/shorts/hLaBNn2NyZI?feature=share，
[16:23.20] <@Lard> [YouTube] đŸ˜±đŸ˜± Alisha Lehmann's revenge #shorts | 45s | HQ Sports Shorts | 120,250,209 views
[16:26.03] <+HopesNotHere> ..Men at Jerkingoff\
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[16:36.48] <+Cleland> HopesNotHere you are so gay
[16:36.50] <+Cleland> My God
[16:36.54] <+Cleland> Thinking about men jerking off
[16:36.56] <+Cleland> Dude, come out
[16:37.01] <+Cleland> It will make your life so much better
[16:37.08] <+Cleland> No more internal stress
[16:37.10] <+Cleland> Be you
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[16:43.16] <+Cleland> HopesNotHere I’m talking to you boi
[16:43.18] <+Cleland> Wake up
[16:43.20] <+Cleland> I”m here for you
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[16:47.02] <RatBytes> you don't say ?
[16:47.21] <+Timur> -who was it? -he didn't say!
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[16:47.55] <+Harbinger> Cleland has been begging other men on UnderNet to "become gay" for over a decade.
[16:48.14] <RatBytes> Russian shelling has killed seven people, including a 23-day-old infant, and wounded 20 others in Ukraine’s southern region of Kherson, prompting local officials to declare a day of mourning.
[16:48.27] <RatBytes> That 23 day old infant was a threat !!!
[16:48.40] <+Cleland> HardonBurger--!!!
[16:48.44] <+Cleland> The INcel Stalker
[16:48.48] <+Cleland> WTF is wrong with you boi
[16:48.54] <+Cleland> YOu fucking need to get laid
[16:49.00] <+Cleland> Harbungler
[16:49.03] <+Cleland> Thats your knew nick
[16:49.05] <+Cleland> Harbungler
[16:49.08] <+Cleland> I like that
[16:49.10] <+Cleland> Fuck off
[16:49.39] <RatBytes> Harbinger - so? He can beg all he wants... it's not like a guy with no gay leanings is suddenly going to say "Oh sure, yeah, why not..."
[16:49.50] <kritklmas> b.voiceall
[16:49.54] <kritklmas> oops
[16:50.00] <kritklmas> .voiceall
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[16:50.09] <+RatBytes> b.mistake
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[16:50.31] <@kritklmas> stands for big
[16:50.59] <+RatBytes> cleland probably has an even smaller chance of converting somebody than Deanr does.
[16:51.38] <@kritklmas> lol
[16:53.48] <+RatBytes> kritklmas - did you watch the perseids last night?
[16:54.07] <@kritklmas> no, I did not, but I should have
[16:54.39] <+RatBytes> well, it's supposed to be fairly good tonight. Not quite the peak, but good. It was raining here.
[16:54.54] <@kritklmas> there's noise about all kinds of meteor showers right now
[16:55.08] <+OldMole> the Ruble is a hair away from falling below the penny
[16:55.38] <+Cleland> a Ruble for your thoughts
[16:55.39] <+Wilderness> No it isnt OldMole!!!!
[16:55.55] <+OldMole> um....yes it is
[16:56.01] <@kritklmas> oh good then I won't have to pay as much for a Russian's thoughts
[16:56.08] <+RatBytes> OldMole - unpossible. Tatyana says the Russian economy is so strong they are thinking of giving away free gold to every Russian citizen
[16:56.25] <+OldMole> RatBytes did she really say that?
[16:56.29] <+RatBytes> No
[16:56.31] <+OldMole> I havent seen her around in a while
[16:56.33] <+Wilderness> No it isnt OldMole take a look at this!!! ＋https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1690261295528890368，
[16:56.35] <@Lard> [Twitter] Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB): Day 535 of my 3 day war. I have solved problem of Ruble which is now increasing in value. ⏎ I remain a master strategist. ＋https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3UDr74XAAAZkqD.jpg， | 2166 RTs | 20055 ♥s | Posted: 2023-08-12 - 07:17:51UTC
[16:56.38] <+Wilderness> lol
[16:56.52] <+RatBytes> She's out killing Ukrainian infants for the glory of Putin the Great
[16:57.07] <+OldMole> ok Wilderness , I stand corrected
[16:57.10] <+Wilderness> lol
[16:57.21] <+Wilderness> Putin... the master strategist....
[16:57.30] <+Wilderness> I love darth Putin
[16:57.35] <+RatBytes> But she does say the Russian economy is strong. She says the sanctions actually HELPED Russia...
[16:58.01] <@kritklmas> Dark Brandon can kick his ass
[17:00.19] <+RatBytes> Did you see that Ted Cruz criticized the special counsel investigating Hunter Biden as "hopelessly compromised". This is the same guy that Cruz named as a good candidate in a letter he wrote to Garland a couple of months ago...
[17:02.49] <@kritklmas> hyuck hyuck hyuck
[17:02.56] <@kritklmas> that Cruz boy
[17:03.16] <@kritklmas> always up to mischief
[17:03.37] <@kritklmas> since he was a wee lad
[17:03.42] <@kritklmas> lol
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[17:04.20] <+Cleland> Love to see Biden announce he wont run, and watch the Hunter Biden shit disappear
[17:04.24] <+Cleland> But Biden is a bit of a narcissist
[17:04.29] <+RatBytes> kritklmas - so, do you have to wear a windbreaker at night there?
[17:04.39] <@kritklmas> RatBytes yes
[17:04.51] <@kritklmas> I turn on my space heater
[17:04.58] <+RatBytes> kritklmas - around here I'd like to wear an A/C suit...
[17:05.11] <@kritklmas> RatBytes I get that
[17:05.17] <@kritklmas> been there done it
[17:05.30] <@kritklmas> night heat is the worst
[17:05.31] <+RatBytes> I grew up in Oregon, but not directly on the coast.
[17:06.35] <@kritklmas> ok, I was pretty close to the coast in FL
[17:06.45] <@kritklmas> and I'm right at it here
[17:07.12] <+RatBytes> Russian warships are stopping neutral cargo vessels in international waters in the Black Sea... they fired shots across the bow of a Palau flagged bulk hauler heading to Urkaine to pick up grain.
[17:07.47] <@kritklmas> an embargo
[17:08.10] <+RatBytes> They claim they thought it mightbe carrying weapons... and it's possible. But photos of the ship show that it's riding very high in the water. Can
[17:08.15] <+RatBytes> t have much on board
[17:08.47] <@kritklmas> gotcha
[17:11.12] <@kritklmas> so, just ammo then, lol
[17:11.19] <@kritklmas> hehe
[17:11.58] <@kritklmas> that they are using to pay for the grain
[17:14.11] <+^skunk``> putin is getting desperate
[17:14.52] <+RatBytes> well, a couple dozen skidoos wouldn't weigh much
[17:15.00] <@kritklmas> :)
[17:16.32] <+Relics> Rossiya and Turkiye basically control the Black Sea at this point in time.
[17:17.08] <+RatBytes> They not only control the surface, they have a heavy cruiser defending the sea floor !!
[17:17.21] <+Relics> Hungary just denied Sweden's joining NATO
[17:18.36] <@kritklmas> so why not ask Sweden?
[17:19.00] <+Relics> It's up to the NATO nations. Just takes 1 to veto joining
[17:19.43] <@kritklmas> ok, what is Hungary's problem with Sweden?
[17:20.24] <+^skunk``> Two years since the Taliban swept into power in Afghanistan, not a single country has formally recognised their rule.
[17:20.51] <@kritklmas> as it should be
[17:21.13] <+RatBytes> kritklmas - Sweden once sent Hungary a shipment of Lutefisk... that did it
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[18:08.39] Channel Topic Set by: OldMole on 5:17 AM 8/13/2023
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[18:08.47] <+GhostDog> Which is actually more sounds of waves than dolphins
[18:09.26] <@kritklsongs> that's not relaxing it's exhillarating
[18:09.36] <@kritklsongs> dolphin sounds
[18:09.50] <@kritklsongs> perks the ear
[18:09.55] <+GhostDog> YouTube Music stops playing when it comes across a track for kids. Super annoying
[18:10.02] <@kritklsongs> lol
[18:10.43] <+GhostDog> No you pedo! You can't automatically listen to this song I randomly picked for you based on previous listening history because it's dolphins or Kenny Loggins!
[18:11.03] <@kritklsongs> wow, ok
[18:11.11] <+GhostDog> That's basically how YouTube music works
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[18:11.41] <@kritklsongs> ok, you can set them up their own accounts
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[18:12.18] <+GhostDog> Won't auto play
[18:12.19] <@kritklsongs> they have them for kids
[18:12.30] <+GhostDog> Here's another song labeled for kids ＋https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OdN9TkWEnKU，
[18:12.31] <@Lard> [YouTube] Candle On The Water | 2m 40s | Helen Reddy | 27,241 views
[18:12.51] <@kritklsongs> well, with safety comes a loss of liberty
[18:13.03] <+GhostDog> It's really weird. If you are using the miniplayer, it will stop playing. If you are using the regular player, which shows the video as well as playing the music, it'll work just fine.
[18:14.10] <+GhostDog> How does stopping the player when playing Candle On The Water or Relaxing Dophin Sounds keep me safe?
[18:14.13] <@kritklsongs> ＋https://youtu.be/27MY0eVEois，
[18:14.14] <@Lard> [YouTube] Olivia Newton-John - A Little More Love | 3m 31s | Olivia Newton-John | 1,133,526 views
[18:14.40] <@kritklsongs> GhostDog I don't work there, no idea.
[18:14.50] <+GhostDog> You should get a job there and find out
[18:15.06] <@kritklsongs> or even better, YOU could.
[18:15.15] <+GhostDog> No, I'm a dumb dog
[18:15.19] <@kritklsongs> lol
[18:15.54] <+Debaser> What's the best Nicolas Cage movie, kritklsongs
[18:16.32] <@kritklsongs> Matchstick Men and Face Off come to mind
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[18:16.48] <+payuirtuk> youre a hot dog
[18:17.05] <P1eatsDick> i like my nick
[18:17.09] <+payuirtuk> me too
[18:17.11] <+tis> Everyone likes Face Off
[18:17.21] <+tis> National Treasure is always good fun
[18:17.26] <@kritklsongs> yes
[18:17.36] <+tis> Leaving Las Vegas is probably the technically correct answer
[18:17.49] <+tis> But it's so sad
[18:17.49] <+Debaser> Mandy is awesome
[18:17.52] <@kritklsongs> eh, you may be right tis
[18:17.53] <+Debaser> But dark and insane
[18:18.10] <+tis> Yeah he's done some fucked up movies
[18:18.16] <@kritklsongs> so was Matchstick Men
[18:18.18] <+Debaser> Color out of space is also utter madness
[18:18.21] <+tis> Lord of War was another enjoyable one
[18:18.26] <@kritklsongs> Dark and Insane
[18:18.32] <+Debaser> Noooo
[18:18.32] <@kritklsongs> yes
[18:18.37] <+Debaser> Mandy is *insane*
[18:18.39] <+tis> Didn't he also do one about snuff porn?
[18:18.47] <+tis> 8mm or something like that
[18:18.49] <+Debaser> Right... 8mm?
[18:18.50] <@kritklsongs> 8mm
[18:18.53] <@kritklsongs> yes
[18:19.03] <@kritklsongs> that was well acted
[18:19.05] <+tis> I only saw a portion of that one
[18:19.58] <P1eatsDick> wow so interesting
[18:19.59] <+PrezPusyGrab> yeah he was investigating snuff porn
[18:20.37] <@kritklsongs> ＋https://youtu.be/_Q9Ss5zZU4k，
[18:20.38] <@Lard> [YouTube] As I Am | 7m 48s | Dream Theater | 3,189,120 views
[18:21.18] <P1eatsDick> loser finally spams a good song
[18:21.29] <@kritklsongs> blow me, troll
[18:21.36] <P1eatsDick> you wish loser
[18:21.39] <+PrezPusyGrab> loser complains about other people being losers
[18:21.52] <P1eatsDick> good one loser
[18:21.59] <+PrezPusyGrab> loser compliments PPG
[18:22.09] <@kritklsongs> should I get it overwith?
[18:22.17] <P1eatsDick> gimp bitch
[18:22.20] <@kritklsongs> :)
[18:22.26] <P1eatsDick> eat my ass
[18:22.38] <+PrezPusyGrab> loser cries about disabled female dogs and asks people to eat his ass
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[18:22.57] <+PrezPusyGrab> :
[18:22.58] <+PrezPusyGrab> :/
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[18:28.56] <@kritklsongs> ＋https://youtu.be/xKwPOy_nEmI，
[18:28.56] <@Lard> [YouTube] Highway Star | 6m 9s | Deep Purple | 3,571,235 views
[18:35.37] <@kritklsongs> ＋https://youtu.be/vj_rvLVpqg8，
[18:35.37] <@Lard> [YouTube] It's a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock 'N' Roll) | 5m 2s | AC/DC | 62,336,535 views
[18:36.50] <@kritklsongs> it's harder than it looks
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[18:38.19] <@kritklsongs> hi Kippis
[18:38.35] <+Kippis> hiya kritklsongs :)
[18:38.53] <@kritklsongs> ＋https://youtu.be/vj_rvLVpqg8?t=199，
[18:38.53] <@Lard> [YouTube] It's a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock 'N' Roll) | 5m 2s | AC/DC | 62,336,706 views
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[18:39.05] <+Kippis> people are not in chatting mood ... yet
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[18:41.24] <@kritklsongs> ＋https://youtu.be/JLydO3IspKU，
[18:41.24] <@Lard> [YouTube] Extreme - Get The Funk Out [HQ - FLAC] | 4m 25s | Diego Perez | 99,149 views
[18:43.11] <+Debaser> i hope a scientist examines that guys brain when he dies
[18:44.03] <+Nogaphone> Who is that dude
[18:44.16] <+Relics> Time keeps flowing like a river
[18:44.57] <+P-1> he's the guy who spends every waking hour going from channel to channel saying, "look at all the losers spending all their time on irc"
[18:44.57] <@kritklsongs> time keeps on skipping, skipping, skipping, into the future
[18:45.08] <+Relics> flowing to the sea
[18:45.13] <@kritklsongs> lol
[18:45.17] <+PrezPusyGrab> i feel like he got rejected and is upset
[18:45.30] <@kritklsongs> you got your Alan Parsons in my Steve Miller
[18:45.40] <+seeker> patty told me once that he's done a lot of LSD
[18:45.47] <+seeker> that could be the reason for his dysfunction
[18:46.01] <+Debaser> i know people that have done a lot of lsd
[18:46.04] <+Debaser> theyre not like that
[18:46.10] <+seeker> XD
[18:46.16] <+PrezPusyGrab> I've done TONS of LSD
[18:46.38] <+PrezPusyGrab> and tons of shrooms
[18:46.46] <+seeker> save some for the fishes
[18:46.52] <+Relics> Don't answer me, don't break the silence
[18:46.59] <+Relics> Don't let me win
[18:47.05] <+PrezPusyGrab> I did 21G of penis envies once and had a blast
[18:47.17] <@kritklsongs> ＋https://youtu.be/y6HXTbyqQ4E，
[18:47.18] <@Lard> [YouTube] Poundcake | 5m 20s | Van Halen | 2,668,226 views
[18:47.53] <+Relics> Run away and hide from everyone
[18:48.00] <+seeker> there's a drug called a "penis envy"?
[18:48.04] <+seeker> that's awesome
[18:48.09] <@kritklsongs> lol
[18:48.18] <+seeker> .ud penis envy
[18:48.19] <@Lard> [urban] penis envy - A very funny random phrase to yell out during a quiet or tense moment. [Best results] when said quickly. The moment decides [wether] it [sould] be said loud or quiet.
[18:48.24] <+Relics> marijuana was once called.... muggles
[18:48.32] <+seeker> and then the harry potter movies came out
[18:48.57] <+PrezPusyGrab> seeker: penis envy is a mutant strain of shrooms thats way more potent
[18:49.05] <+Relics> Name you daughter . . . . . Mary Jane
[18:49.05] <+PrezPusyGrab> it looks like a dick
[18:49.14] <@kritklsongs> heh
[18:49.15] <+seeker> ahhh, I see
[18:49.26] <+payuirtuk> i seemen
[18:49.28] <+PrezPusyGrab> ＋https://sporeworks.com/image.php?id=192&type=D，
[18:49.38] <+PrezPusyGrab> they were albino penis envies is what I was growing at the time actually
[18:49.41] <+PrezPusyGrab> and they were insane
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[18:50.10] <+seeker> albino penis envy sounds like its own whole porn genre
[18:50.15] <+Relics> If it hurts when they mention my name. Say you don't know me
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[18:50.18] <@kritklsongs> lol
[18:50.36] <+Relics> Don't tell them anything
[18:50.39] <@kritklsongs> you're a Relics, own it
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[18:51.12] <+Relics> If it helps when they say I'm to blame. Say you don't own me
[18:51.30] <@kritklsongs> I never claimed to own you
[18:51.47] <testicle> thanks
[18:51.57] <+Relics> If you smile when they mention my name, they'll never know you.
[18:52.04] <testicle> no one no one no one ever is to blame
[18:52.14] <+payuirtuk> white penis
[18:52.19] <@kritklsongs> when who mentions your name?
[18:52.27] <testicle> who's that song by
[18:52.32] <testicle> howard something
[18:52.35] <+Relics> Alan Parsons
[18:52.41] <+payuirtuk> project
[18:52.50] <+P-1> howard jones
[18:52.53] <testicle> howard jones
[18:52.56] <+payuirtuk> jones
[18:53.15] <@kritklsongs> ＋https://youtu.be/bRpAEEYiqFQ，
[18:53.15] <@Lard> [YouTube] No One Is To Blame | 4m 19s | Howard Jones | 200,960 views
[18:53.19] <+payuirtuk> i blame you
[18:53.23] <+Relics> from the I, Robot album. inspired by Isaac Asimov
[18:53.27] <+P-1> hojo
[18:53.53] <testicle> yeah that song
[18:53.56] <testicle> old one
[18:54.05] <testicle> 80s
[18:54.14] <@kritklsongs> 4:19, 4:20, whatever it takes
[18:54.24] <+Relics> The most under appreciated guitarists and songwriter is....... Jeff Lynne
[18:54.53] <+P-1> Jeff Lyn has always been brilliant
[18:55.15] <+Relics> Jeff Lynne wrote like 5 of Tom Petty's top hits
[18:55.32] <+Relics> I like that word.... brilliant.
[18:56.26] <@kritklsongs> Lynne
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[18:56.37] <@kritklsongs> Jeff Lynne
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[18:57.41] <+GhostDog> I can't find my glasses.
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[18:58.10] <@kritklsongs> ＋https://youtu.be/ndMj3OQizzg，
[18:58.11] <@Lard> [YouTube] Def Leppard - Let's Get Rocked (audio) | 4m 57s | Teija DefLeppardFanPage | 201,728 views
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[18:59.00] <+P-1> i can tell everything he ever produced for other people,,,it has this signature sound quality to it....the backing vocal mix is a dead giveaway.....the wilburys, george harrison, tom petty......his producing is gold
[19:00.30] <+P-1> and of course elo
[19:00.58] <@kritklsongs> next
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[19:02.02] <+P-1> mama wolf is giving me a tongue bath
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[19:02.43] <+Relics> I probably sound like an old person, but modern popular music is total formulaic crap.
[19:02.47] <+P-1> krit: play year of the car from al stewart
[19:02.58] <+Relics> P-1 MEOW!
[19:02.59] <@kritklsongs> ok later
[19:03.26] <@kritklsongs> ＋https://youtu.be/VpkJ47NB3Nw，
[19:03.26] <@Lard> [YouTube] Turn to Stone (2012 Version) | 3m 43s | Electric Light Orchestra | 214,194 views
[19:03.41] <+P-1> oh yes....thats a classic
[19:04.00] <+P-1> love elo
[19:04.05] <@kritklsongs> :)
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[19:05.28] <P1dickEatr> gimps
[19:05.29] <+P-1> lol living in his head
[19:05.37] <+P-1> i love it
[19:05.44] <@kritklsongs> I guess you are
[19:05.48] <P1dickEatr> you love eating my asshole and
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[19:06.21] <+Relics> kritklsongs I got one for you
[19:06.28] <@kritklsongs> ok
[19:06.34] <@kritklsongs> pm me
[19:06.36] <+Relics> ＋https://youtu.be/wnlCtPh25jk，
[19:06.36] <@Lard> [YouTube] (What a day for a) Daydream - Bobby Darin | 2m 32s | Amarcord777 | 186,159 views
[19:06.42] <@kritklsongs> oh, nm
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[19:06.54] <@kritklsongs> yeah that's ok
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[19:07.30] <@kritklsongs> but Al Stewart is waiting
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[19:07.57] <+P-1> im starting to feel sorry for him.....how many times a day does he humiliate himself like this?
[19:08.08] <@kritklsongs> ＋https://youtu.be/cqZc7ZQURMs，
[19:08.08] <@Lard> [YouTube] Al Stewart - Year Of The Cat | 6m 34s | Rafeta Vinilo | 72,059,557 views
[19:08.13] <P1dickEatr> eat my ass
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[19:08.21] <+P-1> krit: there it is!
[19:08.49] <+Relics> kritklsongs so you know what happens on Tuesday? (No Not Tacos)
[19:09.05] <@kritklsongs> Relics your song is next
[19:09.09] <+Relics> ok
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[19:09.25] <@kritklsongs> twofer Tuesdays on my radio station
[19:09.35] <P1dickEatr> eat my asshole
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[19:09.45] <+Relics> but Tuesday is the 54th Anniversay of Woodstock
[19:09.54] <@kritklsongs> oh!
[19:09.59] <@kritklsongs> nice
[19:10.07] <+Relics> So only songs from Woodstock on Tueday
[19:10.16] <@kritklsongs> hmm
[19:10.19] <+Relics> Feel old now?
[19:10.24] <@kritklsongs> heh
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[19:10.41] <+Relics> HBO MAX has the Woodstock docu from 1970
[19:10.41] <@kritklsongs> yeah, not doing that
[19:11.22] <@kritklsongs> Woodstockians would concede that the show must go on.
[19:11.32] <+Relics> not doing what?
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[19:11.50] <+Relics> ＋https://youtu.be/zhd5KWve5R0，
[19:11.51] <@Lard> [YouTube] Waiting | 4m 4s | Santana | 303,794 views
[19:11.53] <@kritklsongs> playing only woodstock music on Tuesday
[19:12.01] <P1dickEatr> eat ass
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[19:12.14] <+Relics> kritklsongs how many faces in the Santana album cover?
[19:12.29] <@kritklsongs> sorry :)
[19:12.41] <+Relics> smoke a doobie and count the faces
[19:12.52] <+Relics> smoke another doobie
[19:13.00] <@kritklsongs> I'll have to do that later
[19:13.07] <+Relics> I stopped smoking weed years ago.
[19:13.16] <+Relics> I am going to start again
[19:13.21] <@kritklsongs> I'm sorry to hear that
[19:13.21] <+P-1> started giving me panic attacks
[19:13.30] <+Relics> P-1 get the weak shit
[19:13.41] <@kritklsongs> oh, there is hope for you Relics
[19:13.42] <+Relics> strong shit is too strong for us 70 smokers
[19:13.56] <+P-1> 80's :D
[19:14.00] <+Relics> P-1 cheaper too
[19:14.22] <+Relics> ok 80s shit was Colombian Gold Bud and Oaxacan sinsemilla
[19:14.32] <@kritklsongs> I am lucky to be in a state where it's legal for me to have it
[19:14.48] <+P-1> krit: legal here too
[19:14.56] <@kritklsongs> nice :)
[19:15.10] <@kritklsongs> recreation is the future
[19:15.14] <@kritklsongs> lol
[19:15.23] <+seeker> why create once, when you can create again? recreate!
[19:15.23] <+Relics> Gold Bud in 1981 was 40 bucks an ounce. seedy shit
[19:15.34] <@kritklsongs> lol seeker
[19:15.38] <+seeker> :D
[19:16.05] <+Relics> Wish I had saved all the seeds I rolled out of that Gold Bud...... I'd be rich as fuck selling seeds today at 20 bucks a piece.
[19:16.06] <@kritklsongs> ＋https://youtu.be/IKhscaE_9Ks，
[19:16.06] <@Lard> [YouTube] The Unforgiven | 6m 28s | Metallica | 17,849,520 views
[19:16.51] <+Relics> How many seeds did you roll out of your weed?
[19:17.00] <+Relics> more than a hundred?
[19:17.06] <+Relics> more than a thousand?
[19:17.11] <+Relics> 100,000?
[19:17.17] <+seeker> more than a feeling?
[19:17.29] <@kritklsongs> I think it might be called sifting even if you don't use a sifter
[19:17.49] <+P-1> when i was a kid they forced you to go to school and pot was strictly illegal.....in 2020 they closed the schools and legalized recreational pot......i was like, wtf???
[19:17.51] <+Relics> fuck that. we rolled the seeds out
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[19:18.18] <@kritklsongs> P-1 you were born too soon
[19:18.23] <+P-1> i guess lol
[19:18.24] <+Relics> P-1 LOLOLL>OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOPOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
[19:18.33] <+Relics> still lauighing
[19:18.39] <IlumiNaughty> hello GULAGongers
[19:18.40] <+Relics> pick me up off the floor
[19:18.44] <@kritklsongs> Relics don't do that again
[19:18.45] <+P-1> in the 80's they would nail you to the wall for smoking pot
[19:18.52] <@kritklsongs> :)
[19:19.02] <@kritklsongs> flooding issues
[19:19.05] <+P-1> that didnt stop us though
[19:19.10] <+seeker> Gulagadongadongers!
[19:19.10] <+vulcan> alcohol is more dangerous
[19:19.25] <+vulcan> when abused like I did it
[19:19.27] <IlumiNaughty> Relics ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9YpY5cr_Q，
[19:19.27] <@Lard> [YouTube] Pink Floyd – Relics [Full Album 1971] | 49m 5s | Juana Pranayama | 236,047 views
[19:19.30] <+Relics> still laughing!
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[19:20.03] * Relics grans hold of P-1 trying not to fall out of my chair
[19:20.10] <@kritklsongs> :)
[19:20.14] <+P-1> lol
[19:20.21] <IlumiNaughty> no love touching in public
[19:20.26] <+P-1> just our luck, huh?
[19:20.42] <+Relics> My side hurts from laughing
[19:20.47] <IlumiNaughty> keep those *special hugs* in the bedroom Relics
[19:21.16] <@kritklsongs> P-1 there's an old saying, never do anything great unless you can take the congratulations.
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[19:21.55] <+seeker> and there's an even older saying, "ooh ooh ooh. AHH AHHHHH AHHHHHH!"
[19:22.00] <+seeker> this may have been before language was developed
[19:22.04] <@kritklsongs> haha
[19:22.27] * seeker dodges flung feces
[19:22.32] <@kritklsongs> the Replacements, John Madden says it
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[19:22.49] <+Relics> ur ur ur says Jingo
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[19:22.59] <+Relics> ＋https://youtu.be/DgGHeT9U9g0，
[19:22.59] <@Lard> [YouTube] Santana - Jingo (Audio) | 4m 23s | SantanaVEVO | 2,643,045 views
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[19:23.46] <@kritklsongs> Relics, I'm not gonna step on your toes, have at it. :)
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[19:24.21] <+seeker> all the girlies say he's pretty fly for a marty guy
[19:24.24] <+Relics> Much love kritklmas
[19:24.29] <@kritklmas> :)
[19:24.43] <+Relics> MartyMcFly You are my density!
[19:24.54] <@kritklmas> lol
[19:25.18] <@kritklmas> you're dense alright
[19:25.21] <@kritklmas> hehe
[19:25.46] <IlumiNaughty> go jing
[19:25.52] <+Relics> Ghislaine Maxwell's best customers are still running the shit show
[19:26.02] <+Relics> Gooooooooo Go bop
[19:26.11] <IlumiNaughty> ruining the shit show
[19:26.19] <+Relics> ruining too
[19:26.37] <IlumiNaughty> ＋https://youtu.be/7v2GDbEmjGE?t=67，
[19:26.37] <@Lard> [YouTube] The Police - De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da (Official Music Video) | 4m 9s | ThePoliceVEVO | 34,427,040 views
[19:26.41] <@kritklmas> I gotta go do work stuff anyway, BBL
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[19:27.20] <+Relics> I no longer look for the good in people, I search for the real. . . . because while good is often dressed in fake clothing, real is naked and proud no matter the scars
[19:27.43] <+not2> real just mean they they’re better fakers
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[19:27.56] <IlumiNaughty> Kritklmas ragesquits cold never bothered me anyway
[19:28.26] <+not2> if they were real, they’d acknowledge that they don’t know shit
[19:28.26] <IlumiNaughty> lotsa scar in scarsdale
[19:29.27] <+Relics> Lets slow it down...................... ＋https://youtu.be/nUdp9OaK1Ds，
[19:29.28] <@Lard> [YouTube] Treat | 4m 44s | Santana | 273,791 views
[19:29.56] <IlumiNaughty> s l o w
[19:30.40] <IlumiNaughty> s l o w e r
[19:34.44] <IlumiNaughty> ＋https://youtu.be/dbk29JZdl5A?t=57，
[19:34.44] <@Lard> [YouTube] The Pointer Sisters - Slow Hand | 3m 56s | PointerSistersVEVO | 8,403,939 views
[19:40.23] <IlumiNaughty> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSp05euvRNU，
[19:40.23] <@Lard> [YouTube] SOUL SACRIFICE - SANTANA | 9m 50s | i7 studio | 1,531,942 views
[19:42.53] <+vulcan> thats a great tune
[19:43.44] * IlumiNaughty Los Angeles-area canine search-and-rescue teams head to Maui
[19:46.25] <+Relics> IlumiNaughty I like these videos. Take me back to turntable days..... ＋https://youtu.be/yEtOtX5jiuQ，
[19:46.26] <@Lard> [YouTube] Supertramp-Breakfast in America Full Album(Vinyl 1979) | 45m 20s | SebaVinilos | 662,657 views
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[19:47.58] <IlumiNaughty> not much of a girlfriend, but shes the oonly one I've got
[19:48.44] <+Relics> sometimes that's all you need or want
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[19:59.40] <+bodegacat> i like how the russian ruble is having a "special military devaluation"
[20:00.44] <MartyMcFly> heh
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[20:00.56] <MartyMcFly> too bad their economy is too big to fail
[20:01.09] <MartyMcFly> they got resources many need
[20:01.28] <+Relics> The ruble worth is increasin, depending on which FOREX pair you use. But American shitheads only think about the USD ..
[20:01.53] <+vulcan> there are a lot of us shitheads
[20:01.56] <+Relics> It's like so called economics experts try and shit talk BRICs
[20:01.57] <Kyiv> USD is the world trade reserve currency.
[20:02.33] <+bodegacat> which currency is the ruble increasing against
[20:03.10] <+vulcan> some african nation currency
[20:03.34] <MartyMcFly> Relics, do you hate america?
[20:03.34] <Kyiv> What does it matter? The ruble is tenuous risk at best.
[20:04.01] <+bodegacat> well i'm curious. Relics claims its increasing in value "depending on which FOREX pair you use" so which forex pair do you use?
[20:04.22] <+vulcan> pair of jacks
[20:04.42] <IlumiNaughty> up tempo ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BihcE44msEY，
[20:04.43] <@Lard> [YouTube] What I Like About You | 2m 56s | The Romantics | 947,724 views
[20:04.46] <Kyiv> The Western hegemons are going to do the same thing economically to Russia and China that they did to the USSR in the 80's.
[20:05.35] <+Relics> MartyMcFly no, I despise what America has become
[20:05.36] <Kyiv> It will probably result in a hot war.
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[20:06.16] <IlumiNaughty> nobody doin nuthin to China
[20:06.40] <MartyMcFly> Relics, Make America Great Again!
[20:06.41] <Kyiv> "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall!!"
[20:06.44] <MartyMcFly> yeehaw
[20:06.46] <MartyMcFly> :P
[20:07.27] <MartyMcFly> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzFGvx9I9ss，
[20:07.27] <@Lard> [YouTube] Asking the GOP: When Was America Last Great? | The Daily Show | 2m 3s | The Daily Show | 1,550,818 views
[20:07.52] <+bodegacat> Just as i thought, you can't actually name any relevant forex pair where the ruble is increasing in value.
[20:08.04] <IlumiNaughty> Chopper! Sic ball!
[20:08.08] <+Relics> MartyMcFly who got 18.9% of the popular vote in 1992 prez election?
[20:08.25] <MartyMcFly> Perot?
[20:08.39] <MartyMcFly> Jesus?
[20:08.54] <+Relics> Yes... and note... all the Dems do is whine about Nader and Stein, not one word of thanks to Perot.
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[20:09.24] <MartyMcFly> I think Rachel Maddow debunked that
[20:09.29] <MartyMcFly> iirc
[20:09.41] <+Relics> Maddow only debunks lesbian pussy
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[20:09.59] <MartyMcFly> never seen that usage of debunk hmm
[20:10.05] <+bodegacat> heh relics busted in a lie, and now they're ranting about 1992 potus election??
[20:10.08] <+Relics> right. I just made it up!
[20:10.13] <IlumiNaughty> the giant sucking sound is now Donald Trumps candiday, sucking the life out of the Republican party
[20:10.14] <MartyMcFly> ok heh
[20:10.22] <+bodegacat> that's an impressive segue
[20:10.26] <+Jeremy> i'll have to watch woodstock on hbo max. didn't know it was on there
[20:10.34] <+bodegacat> "yabut, yabut... PEROT!!"
[20:10.55] <+Jeremy> first time i saw it was in 89 when i was a kid
[20:11.03] <+Relics> bodegacat so the Dems are saying today if you vote for Cornel West your voting for Trump. The bring up Nader and Stein causing GOP to win.... but never bring up how Perot helped Clinton win in 1992
[20:11.27] <+tis> Hi Zeno!
[20:11.36] <+Relics> IlumiNaughty Perot was right though. Clinton signed NAFTA
[20:11.37] <+tis> Relics = Zeno
[20:11.38] <+bodegacat> Zeno gave up on the decker account?
[20:11.43] <+bodegacat> Hi Zeno!
[20:11.46] <+tis> Yes
[20:12.04] <+bodegacat> well that whole "i told a giant lie and then pretended it never happened" thing makes sense. That's zeno's style.
[20:12.19] <+bodegacat> "let me tell a lie and then jump to complaining about the 1992 election"
[20:12.20] <IlumiNaughty> just say ZeYes
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[20:13.00] <Toby> Suzzane is on Smack, and she won't be coming back, she won't be coming back for the holidays. Suzzane left home to pick her own bone, to make it on her own in the job space. Now she's on smack, and she won't be coming back.
[20:13.06] * IlumiNaughty dccs toby a caramel role
[20:13.50] <Kyiv> Toby, What's Suzzane's price for a BJ?
[20:15.11] <Toby> she probably won't do that..she dated her now husband 7 years and then finally had sex with him
[20:15.28] <Toby> but her mind is on smack
[20:15.34] <Toby> and she needs smacked
[20:15.42] <IlumiNaughty> she don't eat meat, but she sure likes the bone ＋https://youtu.be/TL5ofVC0EDQ?t=29，
[20:15.42] <@Lard> [YouTube] dead eye dick- new age girl.mp4 | 3m 18s | RoxyJosey | 1,085,007 views
[20:16.09] <+Relics> tis = zeno
[20:17.01] <+bodegacat> i thought it was tis/\mouses/\lard/\imagi/\debaser/\thefed all as 1?
[20:17.10] <IlumiNaughty> Lard = Zeno
[20:17.51] <+bodegacat> zeno why do you keep using different random nicknames when you're immediately going to expose yourself as the same person by ranting about 1992 democrats?
[20:17.59] <+Jeremy> lard are you working
[20:18.04] <@Lard> Jeremy, I'm currently working as a software engineer at a global media company.
[20:18.14] <+Jeremy> rewarding and frustrating
[20:18.25] <+Jeremy> i'd recommend another profession
[20:18.32] <+Jeremy> later on
[20:18.35] <+Relics> bodegacat why are you a cunt?
[20:18.42] <+Jeremy> uh oh
[20:18.52] <+Jeremy> well krit isn't here so i guess you won't get kicked
[20:18.59] <+Jeremy> he doesn't like that word
[20:19.18] * IlumiNaughty sets mode +b Jeremy
[20:19.18] <+bodegacat> zeno i am bitter you spurned my date offer
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[20:19.36] <IlumiNaughty> he outs here
[20:22.04] <Toby> lard how much ya make?
[20:22.09] <@Lard> Toby, I'm sorry, I don't feel comfortable answering questions about my financial information.
[20:22.28] <Toby> I see. Okay hide behind the screen
[20:22.41] <Kyiv> I wonder what profession he'd recommend. Is he another Larry Nasar?
[20:22.41] <IlumiNaughty> credit card number please Lard
[20:23.00] <Toby> IIlumiNaughty he probably doesn't make much
[20:23.31] <IlumiNaughty> better to hide in front of screen
[20:23.43] <Toby> I don't hide. I don't fear anything.
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[20:24.10] <IlumiNaughty> that doesn't sounds rational
[20:24.26] <IlumiNaughty> efar has important survival purposes
[20:24.28] <Kyiv> Toby, umMum says you're afraid of the dark, and you wet your bed in your youth.
[20:24.32] <+bodegacat> zeno is hiding!
[20:24.33] <+not2> Lard, how much money do I need to retire with? I’m 68 with $1.4 million ira And get $51k/month in pension and SS income
[20:24.38] <IlumiNaughty> fear has important survival purposes
[20:24.44] <MartyMcFly> Maui: worst fire disaster in the U.S. in over a century
[20:24.46] <Toby> not2 wow that's more than me
[20:24.54] <Toby> but I don't believe you
[20:25.09] <+not2> and I was a terrible investor too
[20:25.09] <IlumiNaughty> not2 depends how you want to live and how long
[20:25.13] <Toby> 1.4 mil would not make you 51K a month
[20:25.30] <Toby> I have 600000 and get ssdi soooo I know you're lying
[20:25.36] <+bodegacat> toby nope and that's why he explained it's pension income not ira drawdown!
[20:26.01] <+not2> $51k/year *typo
[20:26.05] <+not2> Ha
[20:26.07] <Toby> OH!
[20:26.11] <Toby> NOW that make sene
[20:26.13] <Toby> sense
[20:26.17] <+not2> yeah, my bad
[20:26.17] <+bodegacat> ya $51k / mo is a rather ridiculous pension
[20:26.31] <+bodegacat> "i dunno if i can retire on $600k/yr pension!"
[20:26.33] <Toby> I only make 25k a year
[20:26.35] <+GhostDog> not2: 51k a month? You're good.
[20:26.49] <Toby> I could make more, but fuck the VA
[20:26.58] <+not2> I am but I have a bum view
[20:27.08] <IlumiNaughty> what would you do if you had a million dollars? ＋https://youtu.be/9jq6e8s1sik?t=37，
[20:27.08] <@Lard> [YouTube] Office Space (1999) million dollars, 2 chicks at the same time | 56s | Hovh. Nazaretyan | 185,236 views
[20:27.10] <+GhostDog> You're probably OK to retire
[20:27.33] <+not2> No water or river or mountain to ease my eyes on
[20:27.42] <+GhostDog> 51k a year is pretty good as long as you aren't living in an extremely high cost of living area
[20:27.57] <Toby> I can live off 25k a year here easy
[20:28.10] <Toby> rent is only 650.00 a month
[20:28.11] <+GhostDog> My IRA isn't anywhere near 1.4 million. I honestly don't know how I'll ever be able to retire
[20:28.14] <Toby> for a house
[20:28.17] <+not2> I have enough money to get by…but those dental bills can kill ya
[20:28.18] <+bodegacat> i want to live like GhostDog when i retire, i'll need $51k/mo
[20:28.27] <+GhostDog> Toby, check the rents at your retirement home
[20:28.40] <Toby> not2 what's a dental bill? I got dentures when I was 26 (not meth, soda)
[20:28.43] <+GhostDog> I'm not even sure if I have 500k in my IRA
[20:29.15] <+GhostDog> And I don't know how to invest well like bodegacat, so I'm pretty much screwed for retirement
[20:29.17] <+bodegacat> ya but you're young
[20:29.17] <IlumiNaughty> water flowing underground ＋https://youtu.be/5IsSpAOD6K8?t=56，
[20:29.18] <Toby> GhostDog what's a retirement home? Doubtful I will need one
[20:29.18] <@Lard> [YouTube] Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime (Official Video) | 3m 45s | Talking Heads | 64,735,058 views
[20:29.20] <+bodegacat> lots of time to grow your IRA
[20:29.28] <+GhostDog> I'm older than you
[20:29.28] <+bodegacat> well you DID invest like me, which screwed you
[20:29.51] <+bodegacat> my best investing decision was not investing, just putting the money into some kind of real estate ponzi scheme
[20:30.18] <+GhostDog> The house price to income ratio is higher now than it was in 2008.
[20:30.26] <Toby> I'll be dead before I need retirement home or medical care, since I decided I will NEVER see a doctor again for anything ever...If I am in that much pain I'll jump off a building and save myself the ER bill
[20:30.50] <+bodegacat> my name is ted, and one day i'll be dead, yo yo yo
[20:30.54] <+GhostDog> Seeing as they won't perscribe any decent pain meds anyway, sounds like a plan
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[20:31.26] <+GhostDog> They don't prescribe opiods anymore, so you get advil
[20:31.26] <Toby> GhostDog yes or even listen to you. I already had 2 of the 7 doctors I saw reprimanded
[20:31.33] <IlumiNaughty> invest in sleeping pools. i its a pond Z scheme
[20:31.42] <+not2> I had invested in tobacco stocks back in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s
[20:31.44] <+GhostDog> I've been amazed at how little doctors can actually do for most ailments
[20:32.08] <IlumiNaughty> try treating with Ale
[20:32.18] <IlumiNaughty> its right there in the name
[20:32.29] <Toby> GhostDog I've been surprised at how incompetent the dr's are here compared to dallas
[20:32.45] <+tis> Hi
[20:32.51] <+not2> Maximum monthly deduction of 16% of +10years with a 16% match
[20:33.12] <Kyiv> Toby: Where's that?
[20:33.19] <Toby> Kyiv Kansas
[20:33.48] <+GhostDog> Payouts from annuties can go up and down, right? based on prevailing interest rates?
[20:33.52] <Toby> one doctor had to give me a refund because I told admin what they did, the other sent me cert letter saying they won't be my dr anymore
[20:34.10] <+Wilderness> lol
[20:34.17] <+Wilderness> sounds like bullshit
[20:34.26] <+Wilderness> smells like bullshit too
[20:34.33] <+tis> Bodegacat are you offended being called a cunt by Zeno?
[20:34.35] <Toby> what smells like bullshit?
[20:34.44] <+Wilderness> you
[20:34.49] <+GhostDog> bodegacat was called a cunt by zeno?
[20:34.50] <Toby> Nope it's true
[20:34.58] <Toby> 100.00 refund
[20:35.09] <+bodegacat> tis i don't think so, should i be?
[20:37.24] <+GhostDog> That is bullshit. No way you went to the doctor for just $100
[20:37.24] <+bodegacat> GhostDog yes zeno is mad because I caught her in another lie
[20:37.24] <Toby> ghostdog insurance
[20:37.24] <+GhostDog> oh
[20:37.24] <+bodegacat> and I laughed that she's still upset about 1992 potus election
[20:37.24] <+GhostDog> I'm pretty pissed about 1992 as well
[20:37.24] <+bodegacat> ya, us superior americans get health insurance provided by employers
[20:37.24] <+bodegacat> they want to keep us productive
[20:37.24] <+Wilderness> lol
[20:37.24] <+GhostDog> Clinton opened the flood gates for deregulation of news media and corporations owning tons of media outlets
[20:37.24] <+Wilderness> us age expectancy is pretty shit
[20:37.24] <+GhostDog> Jimmy Carter should have won in 1992
[20:37.24] <Toby> anyway basically I had paperwork from another dr, and the dr I saw threw it in the bag with my meds, didn't look at it, and then threw that on the floor...and said some other demeaning things and did not give me the test I asked for, so admin made him refund me
[20:37.24] <IlumiNaughty> MOnica Lewinski opened her floodgates
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[20:37.24] <+Wilderness> 47th in the world
[20:37.24] <+GhostDog> If it weren't for clinton, we might not have fox news
[20:37.28] <IlumiNaughty> have a cigar, yer gonna go far, yer gonna be a star
[20:37.38] <Toby> I like smoking
[20:38.05] <+Wilderness> lol smokes and complains about doctors, genius.....
[20:38.23] <Toby> Wilderness yeah it had nothing to do with smoking you fuck
[20:38.41] <+Wilderness> the point is beyond you toby
[20:38.43] <IlumiNaughty> ＋https://youtu.be/Zyj1K5Lyr_Y?t=64，
[20:38.43] <@Lard> [YouTube] Pink Floyd - Have A Cigar | 5m 2s | Psychedelic Tracks | 985,981 views
[20:38.50] <+not2> I need a new car, if I can get 5% on a $500,000 CD I could pay car payments @ $2000/month for 60 months
[20:38.55] <Toby> maybe I should punch you until you complain about being punched? Say UNCLE Bitch
[20:39.00] <+Wilderness> lol
[20:39.07] <+GhostDog> No you couldn't
[20:39.27] <IlumiNaughty> nobody needs a NEW car
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[20:39.40] <IlumiNaughty> thats a luxury waste of $$
[20:39.41] <Toby> nope nobody needs a new car
[20:39.48] <Toby> just need a chevette
[20:39.58] <IlumiNaughty> ugggh
[20:40.19] <+GhostDog> Interest payments on CDs are taxed, so you wouldn't be able to quite do $2,000/mo
[20:40.23] <IlumiNaughty> get a hoonda or toyota with 80k miles on it
[20:40.42] <Toby> hoondas are too slow
[20:40.48] <+bodegacat> not2 are you being silly?
[20:40.55] <+not2> My old caddy has 97,000 miles on it, action is being requested,
[20:41.08] <Toby> maybe I should break the hound dogs out and go coon huntin tonight
[20:41.12] <+not2> no, I’m as serious as a heart attack
[20:41.14] <MartyMcFly> Toyota has developed a solid-state battery for electric cars that can produce up to 745 miles of driving range and charge in only 10 minutes.
[20:41.15] <MartyMcFly> wow
[20:41.17] <+GhostDog> But you certainly could get a 5% CD
[20:41.40] <+GhostDog> CD rates didn't go up when the fed last raised rates. Dunno why
[20:41.47] <IlumiNaughty> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc_-DIxdn0A，
[20:41.47] <@Lard> [YouTube] 2017 Honda Civic Type R Review - Fastest FWD Production Car | 18m 6s | Engineering Explained | 507,190 views
[20:41.47] <+GhostDog> Savings rates did
[20:41.48] <+bodegacat> you want to buy a $500k CD paying 5% so you can make payments on a 7% car loan for 5 years? heh
[20:41.49] <Kyiv> Toby: U K Kansas Med School is #1 in the state. >> ＋https://med-colleges.com/kansas，
[20:41.59] <Toby> MartyMcFly Chevy made a camaro in 1967-1969 with a 302 v8 that would do 8000 rpm and make 350 hp
[20:41.59] <+Wilderness> lol IlumiNaughty
[20:42.13] <Kyiv> Lawrence, KS
[20:42.31] <Toby> Kyiv I am not going to college to teach professors shit at age 53
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[20:43.01] <+Wilderness> lol do you know more tha professors Toby?
[20:43.35] <Toby> Wilderness since my IQ is 158, and my brother is about the same, and he's working on his second doctorate, yeah I would say so
[20:43.44] <+Wilderness> lol
[20:43.48] <IlumiNaughty> Amateurfessor
[20:43.50] <+Wilderness> more bullshit
[20:44.27] <Kyiv> Toby, get treatment for what ails you there.
[20:44.35] <Toby> yes bullshit, totally bullshit, yet I bet there aren't any people at KU that can detonate solid rock in ms timings to make it explode correctly in a safe manner
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[20:44.52] <+Wilderness> lol
[20:45.01] <+bodegacat> i can do that, in fact that was my sunday project today
[20:45.03] <Toby> and build their own comps
[20:45.13] <Toby> and rebuild their own modern engines
[20:45.28] <+payuirtuk> i rebuild penises
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[20:45.38] <Kyiv> or do urMUM like I can.
[20:45.50] <+Relics> If you combine the IQ of tis and bodegacat, they are still at the moron level
[20:45.56] <Toby> bodega how did you get the dynamite to blow the stump out? Also what percentage dynamite was it?>
[20:46.51] <IlumiNaughty> dy-no-mite!
[20:47.18] <Toby> Bodega can you use a compass to get deep into the woods on a trail and find your way back?
[20:47.29] <+Wilderness> lol
[20:47.38] <MartyMcFly> Toby, and now Ford makes electric Mustang with 480 hp
[20:47.40] <Toby> if not the nuke war is gonna suck for you
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[20:48.03] <Kyiv> Toby, I just followed the trail out before the snow got too deep.
[20:48.13] <+Relics> MartyMcFly and it looks terrible.
[20:48.24] <Toby> martyMcFly yes and the 427 ford from the 1960's made 550 hp...sooo we're going backwards with tech
[20:49.21] <Toby> it was rated at 425 actual on dyno is 550
[20:50.09] <+payuirtuk> that much hp is completely useless
[20:50.19] <Toby> same with the 427/435 hp from chevy, makes about 550
[20:50.26] <Toby> same with 426 old hemi
[20:50.44] <Toby> payuirtuk how is it useless?
[20:50.50] <+payuirtuk> no one needs it on the street
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[20:51.04] <Toby> Uhmm I go 139 on the street for 3 hours
[20:51.14] <+Wilderness> lol bullshit
[20:51.17] <+payuirtuk> in other words, you're a complete moron
[20:51.34] <Toby> not bullshit, western kansas lonely highway...only saw 3 cars in 3 hours
[20:51.36] <+Wilderness> is this Amoral?
[20:51.39] <+payuirtuk> yes
[20:51.40] <+payuirtuk> duh
[20:51.44] <Toby> yeah this is your momma bitch
[20:51.47] <+Wilderness> lol
[20:51.48] <+payuirtuk> isn't it completely obvious
[20:51.53] <+Wilderness> it is
[20:52.08] <Toby> Wilderness I want to fist fight you
[20:52.19] <Toby> maybe it will bring you back to reality
[20:52.23] <+Wilderness> you want to fist me??
[20:52.28] <Toby> yeah
[20:52.29] <Toby> I do
[20:52.30] <+Wilderness> lol
[20:52.43] <Toby> since you're gay I will make you kiss my fist multiple times
[20:52.45] <+Wilderness> I dont swing that way sweety
[20:52.47] <Kyiv> I get sloppy seconds!!
[20:52.53] <Toby> oh yes you do swing that way
[20:53.02] <Toby> I do
[20:53.07] <Toby> I swing and you kiss my fist
[20:53.11] <Toby> works everytime
[20:53.18] <+Wilderness> lol
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[20:54.58] <Kyiv> You can kiss my dick.
[20:55.12] <+Wilderness> kiss your duck?
[20:55.31] <Kyiv> That costs extra.
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[20:55.55] <Kyiv> The duck requires a surcharge.
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[21:01.41] <Toby> all losers on irc, no money, no real computers, ops hide behind bots I can get around.
[21:02.10] <Toby> most haven't been married or had kids or had a real job
[21:02.25] <Toby> just total fucking losers of the world
[21:02.54] <+DS9isBest> Ircers use fake computers then?
[21:03.09] <+Timur> the main thing is for you to be able to feel superior to all other chatters
[21:03.13] <Toby> irc is for losers my friends, you'll keep on logging on till the end, irc is for losers, irc for loser, no time for real life. IRC is for losers, of the world.
[21:03.17] <+Timur> it's fascinating
[21:03.21] <wptmj> How do you get down off an elephant?
[21:03.28] <wptmj> You don't, you get it from a duck.
[21:03.31] <wptmj> :P
[21:03.35] <+Wilderness> lol
[21:03.42] <Toby> I feel superior to MOST of humanity. So what?
[21:03.49] <+Timur> indeed, so what?
[21:04.03] <+Timur> you seem to need to prove it constantly.
[21:04.04] <wptmj> I and I alone can cure bloated egos!
[21:04.07] <+Timur> hehe
[21:04.32] <wptmj> Ironically, it’s my humility that makes me so much better than everyone else.
[21:04.37] <wptmj> :]
[21:04.40] <+Timur> hah
[21:04.40] <Toby> Don't you feel superior to Biden? Or do you walk around aimlessly saying repeat repeat from a teleprompter?
[21:04.59] <+Timur> no, I don't "feel superior to Biden"; is that a driving impetus for you?
[21:05.04] <wptmj> Hello, you've reached 1-800-NARCISSIST.
[21:05.08] <wptmj> How can you help me?
[21:05.09] <+Wilderness> lol
[21:05.13] <Toby> Timur then you should be in an old folks home
[21:05.29] <wptmj> I have a superiority complex.
[21:05.33] <wptmj> I'll wait while you look that up.
[21:05.35] <wptmj> :P
[21:05.49] <Toby> I can't help it that I am smarter than you
[21:05.51] <+Timur> Toby: you seem prone to uninformed, quick judgments.
[21:05.54] <Toby> I have good dna
[21:06.00] <wptmj> You know what's really great about being a narcissist?
[21:06.05] <wptmj> Me.
[21:06.06] <+Timur> is this a recent problem, or does it have a history?
[21:06.28] <wptmj> My wife said I'm full of myself.
[21:06.32] <wptmj> Anyway, enough about her.
[21:06.44] <Toby> it has a history of the usa and a company having slaves like me being forced to work 135 hours in one week
[21:06.59] <Toby> so fuck you, fuck your world, fuck your government, and fuck your momma
[21:07.32] <wptmj> toby, that reminds me of this song
[21:07.36] <wptmj> ＋https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wGKMaYsPz3uhqTX_9whf-JwnwqHVN_Ky/view?usp=drive_link，
[21:07.37] <@Lard> [url] donutsnglorybaywatch.mp4 - Google Drive | drive.google.com ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/28upv4ua， )
[21:09.22] <wptmj> "It's depressing when your girlfriend leave you for a guy named Toby."
[21:09.26] <wptmj> +s
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[21:09.42] <+bodegacat> my momma got fucked already, that's how i arrived
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[21:10.43] <Toby> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErdIWyAt9MQ， this is more my song
[21:10.44] <@Lard> [YouTube] Rodney Norwood Marijuana in my Car | 3m 5s | wombatsmack | 155 views
[21:10.54] <Toby> that song you had was dumb
[21:10.57] <wptmj> What's the difference between a joke and three dicks?
[21:11.02] <wptmj> Your mom can't take a joke.
[21:11.06] <wptmj> :P
[21:11.36] <wptmj> yay ive heard this b4
[21:11.41] <wptmj> i lub it
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[21:11.58] <wptmj> im snagging this for my blog
[21:11.59] <wptmj> ty
[21:13.15] <wptmj> anyone ever get urinary anxiety in here?
[21:13.34] <wptmj> ＋https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nBgRS1BJAxDiMtaBNJ4CnXcbVTbLbWSS/view，
[21:13.35] <@Lard> [url] 30footfallurinenation.mp4 - Google Drive | drive.google.com ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/27ht8hyr， )
[21:14.07] <MartyMcFly> Toby, lol the Tesla Model S has 1020 hp and can go 0 to 60 in 2 seconds
[21:14.09] <+GhostDog> eople who feel stressed or anxious often find themselves having to use the toilet for urinary urgency more often
[21:14.16] <+GhostDog> Maybe this is why I pee so much!
[21:14.43] <wptmj> yeah, has nothing to do with liquid intake
[21:15.15] <wptmj> ;]
[21:15.24] <Toby> MartyMcFly the Tesla Model S can only do 125mph for 1 hour then it's out of juice
[21:15.51] <wptmj> is that all?? ppssssshhhh
[21:15.54] <wptmj> rookie
[21:16.10] <MartyMcFly> ＋https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-tesla-model-s-plaid-first-test-review/，
[21:16.11] <@Lard> [url] 2022 Tesla Model S Plaid First Test: 0–60 MPH in 1.98 Seconds | ＋www.motortrend.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2ca37eo4， )
[21:16.13] <Toby> as I said I did 139 mph in a car with no overdrive for 3 hours then had to fuel
[21:16.32] <Toby> so I think at hour 2 I pass you
[21:16.48] <MartyMcFly> that destroys anything a gasmobile car can do
[21:16.59] <Toby> I just beat your tesla in a 3 hour race
[21:17.13] <Toby> try harder Marty
[21:18.19] <wptmj> cars are death machines
[21:18.23] <wptmj> why be in such a hurry?
[21:18.27] <wptmj> its unnatural
[21:18.59] <wptmj> cars are stunting human evolution
[21:19.04] <wptmj> we are not walking
[21:19.19] <deRuyter> or skiing
[21:19.20] <wptmj> bad things come to those who cant wait
[21:19.24] <wptmj> lol
[21:19.29] <wptmj> skiing
[21:19.46] <deRuyter> you can easily out-ski a grizzly on snowed terrain
[21:20.00] <wptmj> if only everyone would simply ski ::sigh::
[21:20.02] <deRuyter> whistling
[21:20.14] <wptmj> :]
[21:20.15] <deRuyter> while all those electro-freaks are her dinner
[21:20.22] <MartyMcFly> Formula E will surpass your car
[21:20.49] <wptmj> damn toxic ideation
[21:20.58] <MartyMcFly> gas cars are going the way of dinosaurs
[21:21.02] <wptmj> fucking brain worms
[21:21.20] <wptmj> dinosaurs will die!
[21:21.33] <wptmj> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKQSQSVVos，
[21:21.34] <@Lard> [YouTube] NOFX - Dinosaurs Will Die | 2m 51s | gabgabo | 824,644 views
[21:23.21] <wptmj> extinction never felt so good!
[21:23.48] <wptmj> time has come for evolution, fuck collusion
[21:26.03] <deRuyter> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-RVJyNpfDk，
[21:26.03] <@Lard> [YouTube] The Sisters Of Mercy - This Corrosion HQ | 4m 17s | BatayaRulZ | 8,655,420 views
[21:27.26] <MartyMcFly> NOFX!
[21:28.25] <deRuyter> they made clips with fire water sprinklers and a few leather jackets
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[21:28.43] <deRuyter> their budget was $1200
[21:28.52] <deRuyter> not 12 million
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[21:29.36] <+bodegacat> i am thinking steak & eggs cuz i watcheda youtube video that said more protein is healthier
[21:30.32] <+bodegacat> classic song deRuyter
[21:30.37] <+bodegacat> good call
[21:31.10] <deRuyter> ＋https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/08/champagnes-taste-could-change-forever-thanks-to-climate-change.html，
[21:31.12] <@Lard> [url] Champagne's taste could change forever, thanks to climate change | ＋www.cnbc.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/24pv53w6， )
[21:31.36] <deRuyter> take your last sip now, coz its gonna be sugar-water from now on
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[21:32.06] <MartyMcFly> he looks MJ
[21:32.09] <MartyMcFly> like
[21:32.15] <+kmh> war on errorism
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[21:33.40] <MartyMcFly> hey Deanr`, up late
[21:33.51] <Deanr`> 930?
[21:33.59] <Deanr`> not too late
[21:34.00] <deRuyter> they say Scotland might produce the finest vintages soon
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[21:34.15] <MartyMcFly> 12:30 on east coast
[21:34.23] <Deanr`> ahh, well that's late
[21:34.24] <MartyMcFly> oh ok
[21:34.28] <MartyMcFly> you on west coast
[21:34.33] <deRuyter> Pinot Gris in the Highlands - not distilling that rye mash stuff anymore
[21:34.37] <Deanr`> the left coast
[21:34.38] <MartyMcFly> nevermind
[21:34.50] <MartyMcFly> thank you for supporting the left coast :)
[21:35.15] <MartyMcFly> it's a big place you can find anything I guess
[21:35.38] <MartyMcFly> crystal cathedral is there
[21:35.51] <Deanr`> yes, CA
[21:36.04] <Deanr`> wasn't a fan of Dr. Schuller though
[21:36.39] <Nognosis> the crystal cathedral is now a catholic church
[21:36.55] <MartyMcFly> it went bankrupt in 2010
[21:36.59] <Deanr`> yeah, that's what I've heard
[21:37.10] <Nognosis> I visited there, once, years ago (early 2000s) when it was still under schuller
[21:37.36] <Nognosis> I remember being a bit creeped out by the giant smiling jesus statue in the garden
[21:38.03] <+Timur> that sounds creepy
[21:38.18] <+Timur> Christian Disney
[21:38.32] <Deanr`> is that statue still there?
[21:38.57] <Nognosis> this was the one
[21:39.00] <Nognosis> ＋https://c8.alamy.com/comp/B3CWT6/christ-statue-crystal-cathedral-B3CWT6.jpg，
[21:39.03] <Nognosis> creepier in person
[21:39.14] <MartyMcFly> The Southern Baptist Convention on Tuesday ousted its second-largest congregation — Saddleback Church, the renowned California megachurch founded by pastor and best-selling author Rick Warren — for having a woman pastor.
[21:39.15] <MartyMcFly> lol
[21:39.45] <Deanr`> MartyMcFly: that's a good thing.
[21:39.50] <Nognosis> the SBC is going hard right
[21:39.57] <Deanr`> naw
[21:39.59] <Deanr`> biblical
[21:40.02] <Deanr`> historical
[21:40.10] <MartyMcFly> gimme that old timey religion...
[21:40.29] <deRuyter> 'Hour of Power' theologically wasnt so bad
[21:40.38] <Nognosis> patriarchy holds on tight
[21:40.49] <+Timur> ＋https://twitter.com/ShimonLevit/status/1690643181342191617/photo/1，
[21:40.50] <@Lard> [Twitter] Shimon Levit (@ShimonLevit): “There are less than 100 Jews left in Syria, Egypt and Lebanon combined. Jordan has none. There are 2 million Arabs living in Israel. ⏎ The accusation of ethnic cleansing thrown at Israel is a blatant lie. ⏎ The truth- it was the Jews who were ethnically cleansed.” - David Collier ＋https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3Ze8ijXYAActSA.jpg， | 575 RTs | 1345 ♥s | Posted: 2023-08-13 - 08:35:19UTC
[21:41.03] <Deanr`> it's a theological issue
[21:41.05] <MartyMcFly> Timur, in orlando we had a theme park with bibilical theme, it failed and got demolished hehe
[21:41.22] <deRuyter> they hired some Philistines?
[21:41.48] <MartyMcFly> "you uncircumcised philistine!"
[21:41.49] <Deanr`> MartyMcFly: you're in Orlando?
[21:41.56] <MartyMcFly> south florida
[21:42.15] <MartyMcFly> been to orlando many times
[21:42.22] <Deanr`> MartyMcFly: how's that home owner insurance issue working out?
[21:42.46] <MartyMcFly> they're leaving, it is what it is
[21:42.55] <Deanr`> MartyMcFly: is that raising the rates?
[21:43.10] <deRuyter> their rate is 0 now
[21:43.17] <Deanr`> ?
[21:43.28] <+Timur> MartyMcFly: heh
[21:43.39] <MartyMcFly> like everything
[21:44.07] <deRuyter> you think Berlin home-owners had home owner insurance in 1945?
[21:44.35] <deRuyter> 0 premium
[21:46.44] <MartyMcFly> deRuyter, hour of power, was that the one where the bodybuilders performed acts of strength that somehow was related to religion?
[21:46.55] <deRuyter> :)
[21:47.07] <deRuyter> missed that episod I guess
[21:48.15] <deRuyter> a mixed MMA-evangelical transmission - you might be on to something - would write a short try-out to the network bosses
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[21:48.36] <MartyMcFly> that was "the power team"
[21:48.44] <MartyMcFly> John Jacobs
[21:49.09] <deRuyter> maybe have 'Mr. T' clothed in a white robe smash some unbelievers
[21:49.13] <Nognosis> the power team? the guys who tore up yellow books in the name of the Lord?
[21:49.29] <Nognosis> saw them when I was 8 or 9
[21:49.30] <Nognosis> lol
[21:49.35] <Nognosis> back in the late 80s
[21:49.55] <MartyMcFly> heh meatheads
[21:50.08] <Nognosis> there was a band that fronted them
[21:50.11] <MartyMcFly> think I saw them on TBN a few times
[21:50.13] <Nognosis> I think the band was called 'holy smoke'
[21:50.39] <Nognosis> they just don't do popular evangelical christianity like they used to
[21:50.40] <Nognosis> lol
[21:50.55] <Nognosis> I mean, I even remember Christian death metal
[21:51.12] <MartyMcFly> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIXeKMTdVws，
[21:51.12] <@Lard> [YouTube] Power Team - Phone Books | 1m 9s | navets | 49,268 views
[21:51.34] <MartyMcFly> seems wasteful
[21:51.56] <Nognosis> i know right?
[21:52.04] <MartyMcFly> odd publicity stunt
[21:52.18] <Nognosis> definitely not environmentally conscious
[21:52.32] <Nognosis> but maybe they recycled the shredded phone books
[21:56.05] <MartyMcFly> ＋https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufORgD0s2Mo，
[21:56.06] <@Lard> [YouTube] Real Magic - Levitating Monk - Can You Believe You Eyes ? | 2m 50s | sixsilentmen | 224,357 views
[21:56.22] <MartyMcFly> buddhist monk can levitate!
[21:57.25] <Nognosis> MartyMcFly, pentecostals tell stories about people demon possessed levitating too
[21:57.25] <Nognosis> lol
[21:58.06] <MartyMcFly> could it be.....satan! heh
[21:58.13] <Nognosis> lol right
[21:58.19] <Nognosis> they don't do SNL like they used to
[21:58.31] <MartyMcFly> the good ole days
[21:58.41] <MartyMcFly> dana carvey is still around
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[22:05.07] <Deanr`> ＋https://www.businessinsider.com/video-showing-nfl-player-levitating-is-100-real-2017-11，
[22:05.08] <@Lard> [url] Video Showing NFL Player Levitating Is 100% Real | ＋www.businessinsider.com， ( ＋https://tinyurl.com/2596ordm， )
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[22:13.57] <+Timur> nite
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