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"Nathan Brown" <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
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Re: The Portable Party
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Victor,
My name is Nathan Brown and I am a 22 year old college
student at Trinity University. I got your email forwarded to me
from my girlfriend because she thought you and I should talk.
I too am actively working to make the world a better place and
I'd be interested in setting up a time to talk with you about
your ideas, share mine, and see if there are ways that we
could work together.
What do you think?
Adios,
Nathan
nbrown2@trinity.edu
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In order to change something, don't struggle to
change the existing model. Create a new model,
and make the old one obsolete.
- Buckminster Fuller
-----Original Message-----
From: MONEYISEVlL@aol.com [mailto:MONEYISEVlL@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:08 PM
To: cotton46@atc-enviro.com; sforbes@forbesenvironmental.com; tominc@tominc.com
Subject: portable party idea..
*** i wrote this about 4 months ago, a lot has changed with my living conditions..and everyone thinks im crazy because of my ideas. ***
Revision #4 Victor
The Portable Party
I have been an avid bus-rider for almost 2 years now. I have pretty much mastered the transit-system in my town and am no longer dependant on a car to get around and be a productive citizen. It was a total no-brainer.
I believe the end of this world will come, not when jesus returns or any bullshit like that, the day of reckoning will be upon us when that invisible ozone layer up in the sky, that is there for our protection, is no longer. People will drop like flies from skin cancer and it will all be because of our modern invention, the internal-combustion engine. The end of life as we know it will be mankind's own fault.
Some people I've shared my ideas with reply by saying, "Why should I care? It won't be in my lifetime." They don't stop and think, "Hmm, I wonder if us driving so much will someday end the life of one of my children, or perhaps their children, or just maybe, everybody."
In most cases, automotive exhaust is invisible. If you do see it, it disappears and people forget it was ever there. That invisible waste is killing our ozone layer day by day and people are just ignorant to it because it's not directly visible.
What is the main reason people get cars anyway? So they won't have to wait right? With the urban-sprawl in this day and age, rush-hour starts like at 2:00pm. People end up sitting in traffic, wasting time, and burning up their cars as well as our ozone layer. Is it really that convenient?
The $20 I spend on my bus-pass each month sure beats car-related expenses such as insurance, a monthly payment, maintenance, gasoline and the risk of having a third head-injury(I have already had two, I can't afford another one.) It just isn't worth it. Usually more than half of one's paycheck goes into paying for car-related expenses each month. Couldn't you do something better with all that money? Duh.
Then there's the people who say, "Oh, I won't get in a wreck, I am a great driver." It doesn't matter how good a driver you are, there are plenty of morons on the road that aren't. I think they should mandate IQ tests in order to be approved for a driver's license. And you can't ever forget that everyone makes mistakes. Remember, mistakes kill people in cars.
Now, if the bus were to be in a bad accident, first off injuries would be minimal. A car and a bus, hmm who would win that fight? Also, if I was injured, my hospital bills would be paid by the bus company. I would be covered automatically. Why spend money on insurance?
With the money I save by not having a car, I can afford to pay more rent. I live in a great part of town in an awesome apartment, all by myself, with only a part-time job. I can afford to live in such a safe, crime-free place all thanks to the bus.
I just recently separated from my ex-girlfriend because I felt I needed to learn the independence-lesson, to be self-supportive and live alone. Where I live, I have 3 routes at my disposal. I can do whatever I want, whenever I want to. A lot of times I can do them quicker than people with cars. My job is 5-10 minutes away on the bus. I have three bus-routes at my disposal. I have two grocery stores to choose from. I just have options up the ass. I also happen to live in the first building of the complex, right next to the bus-stop. It's like I have a $20/month chauffer. You can't beat that with a stick.
Cars have made our modern society just plain lazy. Before I started riding the bus, I delivered pizza for two years. I've killed two cars delivering pizza. Sure, the money's great and it's a simple job, but it all depends on one thing, a working automobile. When the car breaks down, so does your job.
Before I started riding the bus, I was all scrawny and skinny. My chest was concave almost. It wasn't until I started riding the bus and walking that I started toning up. Humans were designed with two legs for a reason, and it's not so we can push the accelerator and brake. Walking is a full-body exercise, it doesn't just work your legs. I was like, "Cool, I don't have to go to the gym now, what a great compensatory-strategy."
All we have to do is change the way we look at things. Instead of seeing a long walk as a chore or a burden, see it for what it really is, a good, easy workout. The body is designed to sweat. Sweating is damn good for you, it cleans out a lot of impurities. People who don't sweat are plain unhealthy.
I feel that since I walk so much, my immune-system is top-notch so I can safely afford to have negative vices such as smoking cigarettes. I may be delusional when it comes to this, but hey, I feel better about it, who cares if people believe me.
My life has never been better than since I started walking and drinking water. Every aspect of it has improved. Before I would get depressed because I thought I was too skinny, but now I have great muscle tone and a good cardiovascular system and I didn't have to spend any money going to the gym to get it. The more you walk the easier it becomes, just like any other practice. Now I walk everywhere the bus doesn't go. Sometimes, I'll get off at an earlier stop just so I can walk the remainder of the way.
Water. Water truly is the elixir of life. Around the same time I started riding the bus so much, I started drinking water like a camel. It just makes you feel good. I now carry my Planet K drinking water bottle everywhere I go. I refill it every time I pass a water-fountain or stop into a convenience store. Water is so inexpensive as well. Most, if not all, places will let you have water for free.
I have also become very anti-carbonation now. I don't drink soda anymore. Why would I consume so much useless gas and have to pay for it when water is free? It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Being successful is just plain easy, just tweak your life a little. Find ways to produce the same end-result in the fastest amount of time. Let me quote Thomas Edison, "There's a better way to do it. Find it!"
Ok, now on to my idea. Why don't people with cars ride the bus? First of all, the bus has this "ghetto" image. There are two kinds of people who ride the bus. There are the people that ride because they can't afford a car and they think that cars are the only way to get around. Then there are the people who prefer to ride the bus because they see how it saves them money and improves their life. I am one of those people.
So anyway, I got this great idea which should drastically improve rider ship. My plan is to have a group of friends and I get together one Saturday and just ride the bus all day, comfortably, in the air-conditioning. Anyone who doesn't have a monthly pass can buy a day-pass for $2 at any transfer-center. We will take suggestions of recommended stops(like the Witte Museum, Brackenridge park, or any restaurant) and visit many places in our wonderful town. The portable-party will soon become a reality.
A party just isn't a party unless certain things are there.
Music is essential to have a good party. Now, you can't bring a big boom-box on the bus because people have different tastes, so I got to thinking. I don't know how many times I've been sitting on the bus listening to my portable CD-player and wished my friend could hear the song I was listening to. I thought, "Hmm, they should make a "splitter" device where you could plug two sets of headphones into one jack." I soon found out that such a device exists. They sell them for $4 dollars at Radio-Shack.
I got to thinking some more. It dawned on me that there could be one CD-player playing a CD, and that lots of people could just plug in and listen to the same music. How? You ask. Easy, just buy a lot of those splitters and "daisy-chain" the music around the crowd. People could bring their own headphones and just plug in. If they have some of those "ear-bud" headphones, they could just use one and leave the other one hanging out. That way they could still hold conversations and listen to the music at the same time.
We could take turns listening to different CD's. It would be a great way to be introduced to new music, as well as to meet different people and have interesting conversations.
Now this idea is still in the speculation-phase, I'm not too familiar with electronics. For all I know, maybe batteries don't have enough power to share the music with everyone. Who knows? Until I go out and purchase splitters I just won't know, but hey, it's an idea.
At every party there has to be intoxication. We could have a big cooler full of alcohol and food, which we would only consume at a scheduled stop, off of the bus. Like a park or something.
I know the bus company would be against the idea of having alcohol aboard the bus, but what I propose is that when boarding the bus, we leave the cooler right next to the driver. If it takes up to much room for passengers getting on, we could even figure out a way to put a pad-lock on the cooler and give the driver the key when we boarded the bus. That way we could bring the cooler to the back and it would be out of the way. The cooler could sit right in the middle of the row where the driver would have a direct view of it in his rear-view mirror, just to ensure no one is opening it with a spare key and sneaking swigs on the bus.
When boarding the bus, the key to the padlock would be given to the driver of the bus. At the stops, the driver could give us the key.
Wouldn't everyone be for this idea? It would only save lives if people were permitted to get drunk and ride the bus home. There would already be a designated-driver.
Also, people attending our party would have the freedom to leave when they want to and catch a different bus home. Not to mention, any bus-patron would be welcome to join the party until they get to their stop. The party would be an ever-changing group of people, usually strangers. Think of it, what better way to practice social skills and learn to accept the difference and diversity in this world?
Every day I tell everyone I meet on the bus about my idea and people have shown great interest in participating. I am in contact with many by email and we plan to hold a small "brainstorming" session to go over our introductory party.
The other purpose these parties will have is that drivers will hear about it and want to see it for themselves. That will show them how smart and economical riding the bus is and they may think twice when paying for their expensive car payment, insurance, gasoline and maintenance.
If this idea takes off and becomes very popular, I don't want any money for thinking it up. I am sure there are talks about this very same subject in other cities across the nation. Just knowing that my idea has made a difference in the world is payment enough. Thank you.
Just think of the repercussions this idea could have down the road. People wouldn't have to waste their time working for their death-machine. They could spend those resources towards something more productive to improve their life or everyone else's.
Money truly is the root of all evil. It incites greed and deceit. This could be the first step in making money obsolete. Down the road, people might start doing things just for the great feeling of accomplishment and knowing they're helping humanity. Doesn't that sound like the beginning of a peaceful world? Generosity could become the global currency, maybe. Hey, you have to start somewhere right?
Everyone in this world, no matter our differences, have something in common. We are all human beings. I challenge anyone who tells me that it doesn't make them feel good to be good. If you don't think that's true, I invite you to try it and see for yourself.
I have recently found the secret to life, the sure-fire way to get special treatment, have rules broken for you and be made an exception to a lot of things. It's totally legal. All you have to do is be nice and respectful. Just get in the habit of it so it becomes second-nature. It's as simple as that.
Even though I am not religious at all, I follow the golden-rule to a tee. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Generosity will come back to you in the same, if not more, amount than you give it. Even if at first you're nice for selfish reasons, because you know it improves the chances of getting your way. Hey, at least you're not being a dick right? Selfishness may be your motive at first, but once you see the difference kindness makes, you just feel genuinely good. We're only human.
Now, every time I get off the bus, as I'm exiting, I always look to see if the driver's nametag is in place. If it is, I tell the driver, "Thanks for the ride Mr./Mrs. _______, you be sure to have a great day and drive carefully." You should see the smiles I have gotten from bus drivers, ear-to-ear grins. I feel their day has been made right, by little 'ol me. It's just a great feeling, like getting high on life.
Screw the PGA Village issue. What? Would you prefer that land be urbanized instead? Modern golf courses don’t use chemical pesticides and they conserve more nature than building residences. Think of all the jobs its being here will create. Hell, Tiger Woods will be playing in San Antonio. Imagine all the recognition our small city will receive.
Now our ozone layer is a naturally-occurring part of this world. Natural things tend to heal given the chance. It has been under constant attack since the dawn of automobiles. Who’s to say if we lessen the damage we cause, it won’t come back on its own? If that seems unrealistic, hey, at least it won’t get much worse if we stop attacking it. We should always conserve whatever we can.
Like I said, I live a very simple and minimal life. I can afford to have high living standards and only work a part-time job because I ride the bus. I am happy riding and walking, it's great exercise.
Success isn't measured in money these days. It's how happy you are with what you already have.
Well that's it for this dissertation. It would be so rad if I was able to make a difference and help save people's time, money, and lives.
Doesn't this all make perfect sense? Duh.
If you have any suggestions or are interested in helping make history and would like to join the party, email me at: rightprotect@hotmail.com . My AOL/AIM screen name is DLE LGNORANCE.
From :
"Nathan Brown" <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
Reply-To :
"Nathan Brown" <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
To :
"victor gruber" <rightprotect@hotmail.com>
Subject :
Re: The Portable Party
Date :
Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:44:29 -0600
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Victor,
I'm sorry to say I'm really busy right now with finals. Can I follow
up with you in late December early January?
Adios,
Nathan
nbrown2@trinity.edu
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In order to change something, don't struggle to
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and make the old one obsolete.
- Buckminster Fuller
----- Original Message -----
From: "victor gruber" <rightprotect@hotmail.com>
To: <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: The Portable Party
> hi nathan, even though i want people to think im crazy, i value the ones
> that dont even more. i need some backing, so i would be delighted to meet
> up and do some brainstorming. let me know.
>
> - victor
>
> oh yeah, i just finished organizing my quotes. people werent reading them
> all because it was too long. so on this one, it just has quotes by me.
> hmm, i could send a whole other seperate email, but let me see if they all
> fit on this one. if you run across one you dont agree with, let me know
and
> ill change your mind. :]
>
>
> Proverbial-Victor (revised 111802)
>
>
> 1. "Screw money, let's make love really make the world go 'round."
> - Victor
>
> 2. "You shouldn't drink from the mainstream. It has become polluted and
> carcinogenic."
> - Victor
>
> 3. "Live up to your name, I'm trying to."
> - Victor
>
> 4. "A mother is supposed to trust her son and back him, even when he bends
> the rules."
> - Victor
>
> 5. "A parent's true purpose is to nurture and teach their children, not
just
> pay the bills." - Victor
>
> 6. "The technology is already here. Let's make America modern already,
then
> the whole world."
> - Victor
>
> 7. "Generosity will soon become our common-currency, just watch."
> - Victor
>
> 8. "Very few people are crazy. Most are just different. Accept it
already.
> - Victor
>
> 9. "They don't have to change. Sometimes they just won't, no matter how
> hard anyone tries. YOU have to change the way YOU see them."
> - Victor
>
> 10. "There are appropriate occasions when lies, deceit, and ignorance
should
> be practiced, especially when the end-result is good. Choose them
wisely."
> - Victor
>
> 11. "We all make mistakes. Just be sure to learn from them to avoid
> recurrence."
> - Victor
>
> 12. "Life is our canvas. We decide what the painting will be."
> - Victor
>
> 13. "It's not where you live, it's HOW you live."
> - Victor
>
> 14. "It doesn't take genius to recognize genius. Just an open eye, ear
and
> heart."
> - Victor
>
> 15. "You can get so much more than what you pay for."
> - Victor
>
> 16. "Mainstream thought only undermines the values set forth in the
> Constitution of the United States. This is America, do what you want to,
> follow your own rules." - Victor
>
> 17. "People who talk to themselves aren't crazy, they're independent.
They
> don't need anyone else to socialize with."
> - Victor
>
> 18. "There's power in words, not numbers."
> - Victor
>
> 19. "Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's safe."
> - Victor
>
> 20. "You really do get out of it what you put into it."
> - Victor
>
> 21. "There's a big difference between bragging and being proud of
> something."
> - Victor
>
> 22. "Traditional, old-fashioned practices are just that, old."
> - Victor
>
> 23. "Words cannot offend you unless YOU let them."
> - Victor
>
> 24. "You can only sign off of life once."
> - Victor
>
> 25. "Marijuana, our safe, natural magic. Use it responsibly and in
> moderation, don't abuse it."
> - Victor
>
> 26. "Is it just a coincidence that two naturally-occurring substances in
our
> natural world, humans and marijuana, have a certain reaction when mixed?
Is
> it just a coincidence that we have THC-receptors in our brain, naturally?
> It is here for us to use, responsibly though."
> - Victor
>
> 27. "Don't you think if all the world leaders got together and smoked some
> weed, everyone would just chill out and stop torturing and killing
innocent
> people? Hey, they didn't call them peace-pipes for nothing."
> - Victor
>
> 28. "How many gods are there? Oh, just one? Well what about all those
> polytheistic religions in Asia that believe in more than one? Are they
just
> damned to hell for believing in the wrong thing? Who the hell is right?"
> - Victor
>
> 29. "I believe that when I die, I will be dead. I will cease to exist. I
> won't be around to care if I went to heaven or hell. Dead people don't
give
> a shit about anything. When I tell people this, they go, "Well then,
what's
> the point of life?" Who says life has to have a point besides doing what
> you want to do and using the time you've been given wisely? Don't worry,
be
> happy."
> - Victor
>
> 30. "What's the point to marriage? I don't need a legal, binding contract
> to feel bound to someone for the rest of my life. If the trust and
loyalty
> is there, what's the point? Marriages cost money and so do divorces. If
> you're going to remain married just because you can't afford a divorce,
what
> did you get married for in the first place? And it is a proven fact that
> people sometimes change and you can't, or are not willing to, change with
> them. Why complicate things? Marriage is just ceremonial, customary, and
> religious. Just because everyone else does it, why should you?"
> - Victor
>
> 31. "We get to choose what we regard and disregard."
> - Victor
>
> 32. "Pirated software can be compared with alcohol in the twenties. It is
> just too widespread to control. There are plenty of computer-ignorant
> people out there that are willing to spend their hard-earned money on
> software that makes it not worth it to the software-manufacturers to trace
> and litigate pirates. Think of all the publicity criminalizing
> software-infringement would attract, then everyone would be doing it.
It's
> just not that hard in this day and age. It truly is an
accepted-underworld.
> Software companies want as few people to know about it as possible
because
> anyone with a computer can get free shit easily. They just have to know
> where to look. Money rules our modern world, let's change that. Let's
rule
> our own world." - Victor
>
> 33. "Money truly is the root of all evil. In my ideal society money would
> be obsolete. People would do things to help others just for the feeling
of
> accomplishment and for helping humanity. If everyone out there is working
> for free, they will get helped out at the same time. It would be a
win-win
> situation. As different and diverse as we all are, we are all still human
> beings. Even though I am not religious at all, I still follow the
> golden-rule to a tee. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
> It all comes back to you, one way or another. Sell your car and save the
> planet, as well as your pocket-book."
> - Victor
>
> 34. "Pride can complicate things, especially stupid-pride."
> - Victor
>
> 35. "If it fits, stick it in."
> - Victor
>
> 36. "The human emotion hate doesn't need to exist."
> - Victor
>
> 37. "The only way we are ever going to make everyone the same, is by
> accepting everyone's differences. Peace and harmony will be sure to
> follow."
> - Victor
>
> 38. "Instead of foreign-aide, let's give evolution-aide, to EVERYBODY."
> - Victor
>
> 39. "There are millions of me's, but only one of us."
> - Victor
>
> 40. "Not that I understand things, I just get shit."
> - Victor
>
> 41. "The smart man backs his shit up."
> - Victor
>
> 42. "Things take time."
> - Victor
>
> 43. "Being happy on the bottom puts me on top."
> - Victor
>
> 44. "Whatever's cool with you."
> - Victor
>
> 45. "The truth may hurt sometimes, but you can't ever change it. You can
> only hide from it, if you choose to."
> - Victor
>
> 46. "People just can't handle the truth."
> - Victor
>
> 47. "I believe the end of life as we know it will come when that invisible
> ozone layer up in the sky, that is there for our protection naturally, is
no
> longer. People will drop like flies from skin cancer and it will all be
> because of our modern invention, the internal-combustion engine. The end
of
> life as we know it will be mankind's own fault. I have even heard that the
> ozone layer has split into two recently. I have to act fast."
> - Victor
>
> 48. "In most cases, automotive exhaust is invisible. If you do see it, it
> disappears and people forget it was ever there. That invisible waste is
> killing our ozone layer day by day and people are just ignorant to it
> because it's not directly visible."
> - Victor
>
> 49. " What is the main reason people get cars anyway? So they won't
have
> to wait right? With the urban-sprawl in this day and age, rush-hour
starts
> around 2:00pm. People end up sitting in traffic, wasting time, and
burning
> up their cars as well as our ozone layer. Is it really that convenient?"
> - Victor
>
> 50. "You can't ever forget that everyone makes mistakes. Remember,
> mistakes in cars just happen to kill people."
> - Victor
>
> 51. "Now, if the bus were to be in a bad accident, first off injuries
would
> be minimal. A car and a bus, hmm, who would win that fight? Also, if I
was
> injured, my hospital bills would be paid for by the bus company. I would
be
> covered automatically. Why waste money on insurance?"
> - Victor
>
> 52. "Cars have made our modern society just plain lazy."
> - Victor
>
> 53. "Before I started riding the bus, I was all scrawny and skinny. My
> chest was concave almost. It wasn't until I started riding the bus and
> walking that I started toning up. Humans were designed with two legs for
a
> reason, and it's not so we can push the accelerator and brake. Walking is
a
> full-body exercise, it doesn't just work your legs. I was like, "Cool, I
> don't have to go to the gym now, what a great compensatory-strategy."
> - Victor
>
> 54. "All we have to do is change the way we look at things. Instead of
> seeing a long walk as a chore or a burden, see it for what it really is.
A
> good, easy workout."
> - Victor
>
> 55. "My life has never been better since I started walking and drinking
> water. Every aspect of it has improved. Before I would get depressed
> because I thought I was too skinny, but now I have great muscle tone and a
> good cardiovascular system and I didn't have to spend any money going to
the
> gym to get it. The more you walk the easier it becomes, just like any
other
> practice. Now I walk everywhere the bus doesn't go. Sometimes, I'll get
> off at an earlier stop just so I can walk the remainder of the way."
> - Victor
>
> 56. "Water. Water truly is the elixir of life. Water is so inexpensive
as
> well. Most, if not all places will let you have water for free."
> - Victor
>
> 57. "Soda, yuck. Why would I consume so much useless gas and have to pay
> for it when water is free? Why does anyone? Don't you have enough gas?
> People drink because they're thirsty right? Soda only makes you
thirstier,
> so you'll want more and spend even more money."
> - Victor
>
> 58. "Being successful is just plain easy, just tweak your life a little.
> Find ways to produce the same end-result in the fastest amount of time.
> There's a shortcut to everything."
> - Victor
>
> 59. "There are two kinds of people who ride the bus. There are the
people
> that ride because they can't afford a car and they think that cars are the
> only way to get around. Then there are the people who prefer to ride the
> bus because they see how it saves them money and improves their life. I
am
> one of those people."
> - Victor
>
> 60. "Everyone in this world, no matter our differences, have something in
> common. We are all human beings. I challenge anyone who tells me that it
> doesn't make them feel good to be good. If you don't think that's true, I
> invite you to try it and see for yourself."
> - Victor
>
> 61. "I have recently found the secret to life, the sure-fire way to get
> special treatment, have rules broken for you and be made an exception to a
> lot of things. It's totally legal. All you have to do is be nice and
> respectful. Just get in the habit of it so it becomes second-nature.
It's
> as simple as that."
> - Victor
>
> 62. "Even if at first you're nice for selfish reasons, because you know it
> improves the chances of getting your way. Hey, at least you're not being
a
> dick right? Selfishness may be your motive at first, but once you see the
> difference kindness makes, you just feel genuinely good. We're only
human."
> - Victor
>
> 63. "Now our ozone layer is a naturally-occurring part of this world.
> Natural things tend to heal given the chance. It has been under constant
> attack since the dawn of automobiles. Who's to say if we lessen the
damage
> we cause, it won't come back on its own? If that seems unrealistic, hey,
at
> least it won't get much worse if we stop attacking it. We should always
> conserve whatever we can."
> - Victor
>
> 64. "Unfortunately, success is measured in money these days. It should be
> measured by how happy you are with what you already have."
> - Victor
>
> 65. "Why do people make their lives so complicated?"
> - Victor
>
> 66. "If things didn't possess a monetary-value, would people steal? money
> segregates society and gives people a false sense of respect. money
cannot
> buy happiness. I know of suicidal millionaires."
> - Victor
>
> 67. "I am not a beggar. The only thing I beg for is to differ."
> - Victor
>
> 68. "When i give people the choice to tell me no, helping me out becomes
> their decision. I am not twisting anyones arm. When people give me
> things, it's not like they're not getting anything in return. I give
people
> the chance to feel good about themselves. If it was only a one-sided
> exchange, no one would give me anything. People say I take advantage of
> things. Damn-straight, I take advantage of every opportunity I get.
Aren't
> advantages better than disadvantages? Remember, it doesn't hurt to ask."
> - Victor
>
> 69. "My methods just prove not only is it human-nature to be generous, but
> that there is an acceptable loss every company figures into their finances
> at the end of each month, that makes it ok not to always charge for
things.
> You see, money is just a game."
> - Victor
>
> 70. "The little money I spend riding the bus sure beats car-related
expenses
> such as a car payment, insurance, maintenance, gasoline and the risk of
> getting in an accident. Couldn't you do something better with all that
> money? Duh. Life just isn't that complicated when you don't own a
> death-machine."
> - Victor
>
> 71. "There can still be bad people with lots of money. It shouldn't
excuse
> them from being bad."
> - Victor
>
> 72. "Wouldn't you work for free if all your needs were already taken care
> of, so you wouldnt be bored at home all day, provided you had a job you
> enjoyed? Well, if everyone else was doing that, what would we need money
> for? Work for your own wants and be independant."
> - Victor
>
> 73. "Instead of trying to get the most money into their bank accounts,
> people would start competing to see who could be the most generous, to get
> the most attention and respect."
> - Victor
>
> 74. "ALL people are different and that diversity is something supported by
> science. We have to stop trying to make everyone the same and learn to
> accept the difference in this world. That is the only way there will ever
> be peace."
> - Victor
>
> 75. "So people in other countries arent like Americans. So what? They
dont
> have to be. Let's stop trying to make them like us. They are just
jealous
> and bitter because they arent as modern as Americans, and jealousy can
kill.
> Let's forgive and help them already.
> - Victor
>
> 76. "In all my experiences I have come to learn that when you react the
> exact opposite way that people expect you to, not only do you surprise
them,
> but they usually end up respecting you for it. Don't you think our
warring
> nations would feel indebted to us if we forgave them and helped them out?
> Killing innocent people would be a thing of the past. Remember,
forgiveness
> is devine."
> - Victor
>
> 77. "My model for this perfect freedom I envision is the pirated-software
> scene on IRC, where everything is already free and has been since the
birth
> of the internet. You can get new movies, programs, games, pornography,
you
> name it, all for nothing. As long as its in byte-form, you can get it for
> free on the web. You just have to know where to look.
> It's also an accepted underworld. Software companies will spend more
> money tracing and litigating offenders, than they're already making from
all
> the people buying it legitimately. It's just not cost-effective to them,
so
> they just ignore it.
> You can compare software-piracy to alcohol in the 20's. It's just
too
> widespread to control and everyone knows how well prohibition worked.
Let's
> say the feds knocked on my door and told me they were gonna bust me for
> downloading pirated software. I would tell them, "Why aren't you going
> after the people I'm getting it from? Eliminating the end-user doesn't
> solve anything. There are organized groups out there that do this for a
> living almost, go bust them." If they're gonna come after one, they have
to
> go after everbody. Don't I deserve equal treatment under the law? Just
> think of all the publicity criminalizing piracy would attract. Then
> EVERYONE would be be doing it. There really is no stopping it."
> - Victor
>
> 78. "What are some problems you encounter when you have a new idea and
> you're trying to get it out? For one, If you're telling it orally, you
> always run into the problem of not remembering the whole story(because
> everyone makes mistakes), thus not being as effective as you want.
> Secondly, IGNORANCE. People are too set in their old-fashioned, lazy
> ways, deathly afraid of change(even if it's for the better) and they won't
> even listen to you.
> Well, I have found a way to jump both of those hurdles with the
> internet. What I will do is run an FTP server from my computer, giving
> anyone in the world access to my hard-drive. Only the files and
directories
> I want them to access, of course. On my hard-drive I will have all my
text
> files containing my ideas, that anyone can read with any web-browser out
> there. this way, people can read my ideas at their discretion, UNCENSORED
> and they can finish them whenever they want to. the whole story will be
> told every single time."
> - Victor
>
> 79. "Please, please, please let freedom really reign already. Think of
this
> as an evolutionary-springboard. Just think of all the great ideas people
> have had that could've saved the world in the past, that ignorance never
let
> be heard."
> - Victor
>
> 80. "Let's say I pull this off and actually bring world peace. Wouldn't
> that make me the happiest man in the world? Not to mention, the most
> successful? All without money."
> - Victor
>
> 81. "We cant blame all of the people of a certain country for how their
> leaders behave and think. It's not like they all agree with them. So why
> make innocent people suffer because what their leaders or the majority
> think? That's not fair."
> - Victor
>
> 82. "The government has to get out of everyone's business already. So
> people from other countries are different. Who cares, it's none of our
> business how they make themselves happy. Let them do what they want, as
> long as they're not hurting innocent people. Like I always say about
> generosity and good will, you really do get what you give. If we help
them,
> they'll feel indebted to us and stop killing. They're human too. Duh.
> - Victor
>
> 83. "Let's lead by example and show them how we have evolved. The older
> generation can't handle the fact that us younger people have learned from
> their mistakes and dont necessarily need college to be intelligent. Much
of
> the ignorance I have come across comes from older people. All the people
of
> the "internet-generation" seem to agree with me and my values. We are the
> true realists, and there's more of us than there are of them. So let's
make
> kindness and generosity our common-currency, not money."
> - Victor
>
> 84. "Remember, anything is possible and you gotta start somewhere."
> - Victor
>
> 85. "Look at the moon closely sometime. Doesn't it look like a yin-yang?"
> - Victor
>
> 86. "If you know how to do it, more power to you."
> - Victor
>
> 87. "Ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance is DEATH."
> - Victor
>
> 88. "You can't stop bytes."
> - Victor
>
> 89. "People say I am crazy. These days, you have to be a little crazy to
> make a difference, no?"
> - Victor
From :
"Nathan Brown" <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
Reply-To :
"Nathan Brown" <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
To :
"victor gruber" <rightprotect@hotmail.com>
Subject :
Re: The Portable Party
Date :
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Victor,
Ok, I'm pretty much finished with finals and I've now got some
time to follow up with you. Sorry about the long delay.
So, could we set up a time to meet to chat over the phone?
Adios,
Nathan
From :
"Nathan Brown" <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
Reply-To :
"Nathan Brown" <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
To :
"victor gruber" <rightprotect@hotmail.com>
Subject :
Re: The Portable Party
Date :
Thu, 19 Dec 2002 02:39:23 -0600
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Victor,
You strike me as a crazy fellow. This is not bad, but I can't say
that I'd be comfortable starting off our relationship by going on a
nature walk and getting stoned together. Would you be up for
something more public and more sober, at least for starters?
Adios,
Nathan
nbrown2@trinity.edu
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In order to change something, don't struggle to
change the existing model. Create a new model,
and make the old one obsolete.
- Buckminster Fuller
----- Original Message -----
From: "victor gruber" <rightprotect@hotmail.com>
To: <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: The Portable Party
> actually man, ive been very busy training. i dont know if ive told
you,
> but im going to walk to california with no money. i-10 all the way. i
plan
> to get all the way over there on generosity alone. im going to prove my
> theories right about walking and nice people. i really dont like talking
on
> the phone too much. would you be interested on going on a nature hike
with
> me sometime? do you smoke marijuana?
>
> - victor
From :
"Nathan Brown" <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
Reply-To :
"Nathan Brown" <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
To :
"victor gruber" <rightprotect@hotmail.com>
Subject :
Re: The Portable Party
Date :
Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:49:25 -0600
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Victor,
Do you know candle light coffee on St. Mary's street? We could
go there, get some tea or coffee and chat.
Bummed out? You don't seemed bummed out to me. You seem to
me to be more like one of the most optimistic people I've met.
I'd love to take a look at your book. Send it over!
adios,
Nathan
nbrown2@trinity.edu
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- Buckminster Fuller
----- Original Message -----
From: "victor gruber" <rightprotect@hotmail.com>
To: <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: The Portable Party
> nathan,
> hehe, im not insane. im just a little bummed out. i got nothing to
> lose. i just like enjoying all natural life has to offer. everything in
> moderation. we can hang out anywhere/way. its all good. im not sure if
i
> told you, but soon im planning on getting out of san antonio and doing
some
> traveling. so if you want to meet and discuss the future, the sooner the
> better dude.
> i dont want you to feel uncomfortable around me. i dont think im
> crazy, but if i am, i am harmless-crazy and trustworthy. i stand firmly
> behind what i believe in. honesty if the best policy and i wont hurt a
fly.
> plus, dont you have to be at least a little crazy these days to make a
> difference?
> hey dude, im putting together a book of true stories. i have 24
> chapters so far. ive just been documenting my life recently. i carry a
> mini-cassette recorder around me everywhere i go. it wasnt until i slowed
> down and started keeping track of my adventures every day, that i realized
> how different i am and interesting to "normal" people. i really am an
open
> book. if youd like to get to know me better, just let me know and ill
send
> the chapters over.
>
> ok dude, im gonna go donate/sell some of my life-saving blood plasma for a
> little cash.
>
> peace brother,
>
> - victor
>
>
From :
"Nathan Brown" <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
Reply-To :
"Nathan Brown" <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
To :
"victor gruber" <rightprotect@hotmail.com>
Subject :
Re: The Portable Party
Date :
Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:19:47 -0600
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I hear you on the stat of the union situation. It is very concerning to
me as well!
I'll check out some of your chapters soon.
You found the address for the coffee shop?
When would you like to try to meet?
Adios,
Nathan
nbrown2@trinity.edu
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and make the old one obsolete.
- Buckminster Fuller
----- Original Message -----
From: "victor gruber" <rightprotect@hotmail.com>
To: <nbrown2@trinity.edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: The Portable Party
> hmm, not sure where that coffee shop is, but i can just get the
address
> and ask the via operator what buses to take there. i guess im not too
> bummed out, just a little disturbed at the horrible state of the union.
ill
> send you the chapters from my current aol sn(which could die any day, so
> keep mailing me here).
>
> ok dude, later on..
>
> - victor
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